wiring a XJ hitch
08-10-2006, 07:59 PM
#61
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
Okay. One more time.
You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
white wire on the flat 4-pin.
The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
directions are very clear.
You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
"AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
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> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
>
You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
white wire on the flat 4-pin.
The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
directions are very clear.
You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
"AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
>
08-10-2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The grounds need to be wired correctly.
>
> The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
> trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
> of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.
>
The WHITE wire on the trailer harness is the ground. Connect it to the frame
on both the tow vehicle and the trailer.
08-10-2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The grounds need to be wired correctly.
>
> The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
> trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
> of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.
>
The WHITE wire on the trailer harness is the ground. Connect it to the frame
on both the tow vehicle and the trailer.
08-10-2006, 08:01 PM
#64
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The grounds need to be wired correctly.
>
> The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
> trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
> of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.
>
The WHITE wire on the trailer harness is the ground. Connect it to the frame
on both the tow vehicle and the trailer.
08-10-2006, 08:01 PM
#65
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The grounds need to be wired correctly.
>
> The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
> trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
> of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.
>
The WHITE wire on the trailer harness is the ground. Connect it to the frame
on both the tow vehicle and the trailer.
08-11-2006, 09:19 AM
#66
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
08-11-2006, 09:19 AM
#67
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
08-11-2006, 09:19 AM
#68
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
08-11-2006, 09:19 AM
#69
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
suspect mine does have diodes.
Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
>
> You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
>
> You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
>
> You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> white wire on the flat 4-pin.
>
> The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> directions are very clear.
>
> You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
>
> "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> >
08-12-2006, 07:56 AM
#70
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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
Unless the OP wants to add another pair of lamps to his trailer, then he
can simply use a 6-pin trailer connector and wire it direct. One pair
for turn, one pair for stop and tail, just like his XJ.
I recently finished up my 1948 utility trailer and _wanted_ separate
stop and turn signals on it. I used an after-market in-line connector
on my `96 XJ to get into the wiring harness and then broke into that
upstream of the converter box to get the seperate terminals. I left the
4 pin connector in place in case I ever tow something that uses that
connector.
philthy wrote:
> yes
>
> AWantz wrote:
>
>
>>I've got a 88 XJ and I'm wiring a hitch. Do I Need a converter since
>>the tail lights and brake lights are operated with 2 different wires??
>
>
--
can simply use a 6-pin trailer connector and wire it direct. One pair
for turn, one pair for stop and tail, just like his XJ.
I recently finished up my 1948 utility trailer and _wanted_ separate
stop and turn signals on it. I used an after-market in-line connector
on my `96 XJ to get into the wiring harness and then broke into that
upstream of the converter box to get the seperate terminals. I left the
4 pin connector in place in case I ever tow something that uses that
connector.
philthy wrote:
> yes
>
> AWantz wrote:
>
>
>>I've got a 88 XJ and I'm wiring a hitch. Do I Need a converter since
>>the tail lights and brake lights are operated with 2 different wires??
>
>
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