OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

The grounds need to be wired correctly.

The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.

The running lights are supposed to ground through the harness which also
bolts to the Jeep body. If the brake lights don't have a good ground,
they will steal it through the running light bulb element and in your
case it would seem the headlight circuit as well.

If you have one of these not right, the lights will go insane by
stealing 'grounds' through other bulb elements as you have noticed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

AWantz wrote:
>
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

The grounds need to be wired correctly.

The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.

The running lights are supposed to ground through the harness which also
bolts to the Jeep body. If the brake lights don't have a good ground,
they will steal it through the running light bulb element and in your
case it would seem the headlight circuit as well.

If you have one of these not right, the lights will go insane by
stealing 'grounds' through other bulb elements as you have noticed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

AWantz wrote:
>
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

The grounds need to be wired correctly.

The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.

The running lights are supposed to ground through the harness which also
bolts to the Jeep body. If the brake lights don't have a good ground,
they will steal it through the running light bulb element and in your
case it would seem the headlight circuit as well.

If you have one of these not right, the lights will go insane by
stealing 'grounds' through other bulb elements as you have noticed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

AWantz wrote:
>
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

The grounds need to be wired correctly.

The brake lights usually ground through the fixture and thus through the
trailer hitch. Most folks have to put a dedicated ground to the frame
of the trailer from the body of the Jeep.

The running lights are supposed to ground through the harness which also
bolts to the Jeep body. If the brake lights don't have a good ground,
they will steal it through the running light bulb element and in your
case it would seem the headlight circuit as well.

If you have one of these not right, the lights will go insane by
stealing 'grounds' through other bulb elements as you have noticed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

AWantz wrote:
>
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.

 

Okay. One more time.

You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.

You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.

You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.

You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
white wire on the flat 4-pin.


The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
directions are very clear.

You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.







"AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
>

 

Okay. One more time.

You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.

You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.

You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.

You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
white wire on the flat 4-pin.


The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
directions are very clear.

You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.







"AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
>

 

Okay. One more time.

You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.

You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.

You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.

You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
white wire on the flat 4-pin.


The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
directions are very clear.

You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.







"AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
>