Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
10-30-2004, 07:18 PM
#41
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I am in Canada with the highest in the world I believe sulfur content in
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
10-30-2004, 07:18 PM
#42
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I am in Canada with the highest in the world I believe sulfur content in
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
10-30-2004, 07:18 PM
#43
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I am in Canada with the highest in the world I believe sulfur content in
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
day....
Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
problem if he is behind me.....
Mike
Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
10-30-2004, 07:54 PM
#44
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Yes they should make the little two wheel drive DJs again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-30-2004, 07:54 PM
#45
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Yes they should make the little two wheel drive DJs again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-30-2004, 07:54 PM
#46
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Posts: n/a
Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Yes they should make the little two wheel drive DJs again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
me@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-30-2004, 08:09 PM
#47
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> >How do you say LIBERTY?
>
> Im interested in Wrangle style only..... with removable canvas top
>
> Don't want a small suv
Don't knock GCs.. air con for the summer trails.. heated seats for the
winter..
10-30-2004, 08:09 PM
#48
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:eqv7o0pml3p3j5brjagjh5tucd6v6f6ssg@4ax.com...
> >How do you say LIBERTY?
>
> Im interested in Wrangle style only..... with removable canvas top
>
> Don't want a small suv
Don't knock GCs.. air con for the summer trails.. heated seats for the
winter..
10-30-2004, 08:09 PM
#49
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:eqv7o0pml3p3j5brjagjh5tucd6v6f6ssg@4ax.com...
> >How do you say LIBERTY?
>
> Im interested in Wrangle style only..... with removable canvas top
>
> Don't want a small suv
Don't knock GCs.. air con for the summer trails.. heated seats for the
winter..
10-30-2004, 10:16 PM
#50
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
that's pretty well my point. The US and Canada have shitty fuel and,
because diesels are less popular, less advanced diesels. I don't like
the older diesels either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41842146.DDDCBED7@sympatico.ca...
> I am in Canada with the highest in the world I believe sulfur content in
> our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
> way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
> day....
>
> Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
> problem if he is behind me.....
>
> Mike
because diesels are less popular, less advanced diesels. I don't like
the older diesels either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41842146.DDDCBED7@sympatico.ca...
> I am in Canada with the highest in the world I believe sulfur content in
> our diesel fuel. The crap stinks! Getting boxed behind a bus on the
> way home or worse into work with the top down can just plain wreck your
> day....
>
> Sorry, but no way would I follow a diesel Jeep on the trail. I have no
> problem if he is behind me.....
>
> Mike
