Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
#31
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Mike.
I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
disagree.
I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
Joe R.
99.5 jetta tdi
96 XJ with Banks header!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>
> They are heavier than they look too.
>
> Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>
> Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> me@privacy.net wrote:
> >
> > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
of
> > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> >
> > What are the reasons?
I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
disagree.
I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving for
similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running 20%
soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
Joe R.
99.5 jetta tdi
96 XJ with Banks header!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>
> They are heavier than they look too.
>
> Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>
> Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> me@privacy.net wrote:
> >
> > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
of
> > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> >
> > What are the reasons?
#32
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
#33
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
#34
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrUgd.77509$5v2.74415@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Mike.
>
> I must disagree here. I know you and Bill are anti diesels but many people
> disagree.
>
> I've owned better then a dozen vw diesels from the first stinky rabbits to
> almost the newest tdi's (we got a common rail in late 2004) that are very
> clean. Anyhow my actual mileage on like cars with gas and diesels is about
> 35% more for diesels or more. My current 99.5 jetta tdi has averaged very
> close to 50 mpg for over a hundred thousand miles. Same type of driving
for
> similar gasoline car was a tad under thirty. Plus I'm currently running
20%
> soybean oil and the exhaust smells like french fries! A VW tdi 2.5L 5
> cylinder would be perfect in my XJ!
>
> Joe R.
> 99.5 jetta tdi
> 96 XJ with Banks header!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
> > It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
> >
> > They are heavier than they look too.
> >
> > Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
> >
> > Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > me@privacy.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
> of
> > > >what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > > What are the reasons?
>
>
#35
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
#36
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
#37
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
> I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your XJ.
> A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
I want this in a ZJ. :)
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
--
DougW
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:QVUgd.92315$tU4.74939@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#39
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:QVUgd.92315$tU4.74939@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:QVUgd.92315$tU4.74939@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#40
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:QVUgd.92315$tU4.74939@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:QVUgd.92315$tU4.74939@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > I like diesels, but a 2.5 wouldn't nearly be powerful enough for your
XJ.
> > A 4.0 diesel would bring a smile to your face though.
>
> I want this in a ZJ. :)
> http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...8_0402_diesel/
>
> A little propane, larger turbo, and you have an instant driveshaft
> pretzel and bits of Dayna 35c all over the road.
>
> --
> DougW
heh, I like your style ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ