Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
10-31-2004, 05:00 AM
#61
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Why YUPP up a perfectly good thing? That is what the Liberty is for.
HarryS
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
HarryS
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-31-2004, 09:11 AM
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
go hug a tree....
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-31-2004, 09:11 AM
#66
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
go hug a tree....
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-31-2004, 09:11 AM
#67
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
go hug a tree....
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
jeeps are TRUCKS not SUV's. They were around a lot longer then the SUV
moniker. And they got bad mileage before that too...lol
<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
>
> Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> model?
10-31-2004, 09:27 AM
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
All that extra powerttrain equipment: Front differential, etc, ,
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!
10-31-2004, 09:27 AM
#69
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
All that extra powerttrain equipment: Front differential, etc, ,
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!
10-31-2004, 09:27 AM
#70
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Posts: n/a
Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
All that extra powerttrain equipment: Front differential, etc, ,
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!
transfer case takes POWER to run, even when its disengaged (viscous
shear of the lubricants on the gearing). The high drag due to the
large frontal profile, the lack of an aerodynamic shape, the 'skin'
friction due to all that equipment hanging below, the high road
clearance, the large (relative) low pressure tires, extra weight due to
high strength (plus equipment) - all take power.
So if you want a Jeep thats fuel efficient, its gotta be sleek, flat
bottomed, light weight, low clearance, no 4WD, etc. ..... and much
smaler. Actually a (real) Jeep isnt all that bad in fuel economy in
comparison to other 4WDs.
In article <GpYgd.7432$kM.6160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Michael White <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote:
> me@privacy.net (me@privacy.net) wrote on Saturday 30 October 2004 03:20 pm:
>
> > Id love to own a Jeep Wrangler again but with gas prices the way they
> > are the Jeeps don't get such good mileage
> >
> > Why cant they make a Jeep using a diesel engine? Or even a hybrid
> > model?
>
> What sort of mileage are you looking for? I had a four cylinder CJ-7 with a
> four speed that got 23-24 MPG at 55 MPH. Of course, if I drove 65, I got
> about 13 MPG. The new ones are probably at least as efficient as long as
> you SLOW DOWN!