What's it worth?
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Re: What's it worth?
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says
"******" only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open
body, 4 cyl 134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending
on which web source I use, there's some confusion about production those
two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that
anyone previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about
that gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface
mounted, not recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The
headlights are in civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge
setup. The parking lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the
recepticle indent on the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?).
I happened upon a reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of
the CJ-5) and I got all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin
production until 1968. Too late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench,
solid tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just
a hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would
be a fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good
prices these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of
detail changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google
was coming up empty on my searches.
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery hatch
>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never seen.
>>
>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>> of an M38A.
>
#32
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Re: What's it worth?
[Reposted. PINE picks up the fancy non-printable characters in Bill's
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I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
articles and decides that it needs to post replies in HTML. I didn't
notice the "attachments" flag was up until it was too late.]
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
#33
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Re: What's it worth?
[Reposted. PINE picks up the fancy non-printable characters in Bill's
articles and decides that it needs to post replies in HTML. I didn't
notice the "attachments" flag was up until it was too late.]
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
articles and decides that it needs to post replies in HTML. I didn't
notice the "attachments" flag was up until it was too late.]
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
#34
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Re: What's it worth?
[Reposted. PINE picks up the fancy non-printable characters in Bill's
articles and decides that it needs to post replies in HTML. I didn't
notice the "attachments" flag was up until it was too late.]
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
articles and decides that it needs to post replies in HTML. I didn't
notice the "attachments" flag was up until it was too late.]
I was getting more and more curious, so I went back yesterday and got the
serial number: 57548 123919 off the plate on the firewall (it says "******"
only). If I'm correct that decodes to Universal Jeep, CJ-5 open body, 4 cyl
134 F-head, factory 4WD, made in either 1961 or `62 (depending on which web
source I use, there's some confusion about production those two years).
The degradation of the sheet metal is uniform, so I don't think that anyone
previously rebuilt the body -- and here I'm thinking mostly about that
gate-deleted rear sheet metal. Too, the tail lights are surface mounted, not
recessed as I gather the military lights to be. The headlights are in
civilian buckets and lack the military wingnut-and hinge setup. The parking
lights are clear glass "beehive" style. It lacks the recepticle indent on
the right cowl (what is that for? Battery jumping?). I happened upon a
reference to the M606A2 (a barely militarized version of the CJ-5) and I got
all excited, but it looks like those didn't begin production until 1968. Too
late.
Perhaps it was just a custom-ordered Jeep with the 60/40 front bench, solid
tail and dealer-installed hard top, and the cowl battery box is just a
hold-over from earlier production? Too bad it is so far gone, it would be a
fun project. (Too bad it isn't an M38A, they're getting pretty good prices
these days.)
What I'd like to find is a year-by-year or block-by-block listing of detail
changes/additions/deletions for early civilian Jeeps, but Google was coming
up empty on my searches.
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, L.W.[...] ------ III wrote:
>
>> I think it's a Military tub, but then there looks like there was a
>> battery box that I've forgotten on this '55 I bought and painted to make
>> a buck: http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg The frame number is the one
>> I'd go by, and there'll be one on the outside left front rail, that
>> light sanding will find. Kaiser VIN numbers:
>> http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/55jeep.jpg
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>> So are you thinking that this is an M38A? I've never seen a battery
>>> hatch
>>> on a CJ cowl but, then again, there's lots of things that I've never
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> I may have to run the serial number, and also look up the restored value
>>> of an M38A.
>
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