What's it worth?
On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center type, not the 70's screw-type. The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly close but entirely different? Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. |
Re: What's it worth?
That's a Real Civilian Jeep:
http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that steel top, though. The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust out, like your AMC frame will. -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Lee Ayrton wrote: > > On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side > of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that > it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, > it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style > tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand > drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel > frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center > type, not the 70's screw-type. > > The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the > tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is > out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare > parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > > They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like > $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a > project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but > now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm > thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ > might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > > Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the > running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly > close but entirely different? > > Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. |
Re: What's it worth?
That's a Real Civilian Jeep:
http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that steel top, though. The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust out, like your AMC frame will. -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Lee Ayrton wrote: > > On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side > of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that > it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, > it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style > tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand > drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel > frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center > type, not the 70's screw-type. > > The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the > tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is > out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare > parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > > They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like > $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a > project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but > now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm > thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ > might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > > Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the > running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly > close but entirely different? > > Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. |
Re: What's it worth?
That's a Real Civilian Jeep:
http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that steel top, though. The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust out, like your AMC frame will. -- God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Lee Ayrton wrote: > > On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side > of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that > it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, > it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style > tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand > drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel > frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center > type, not the 70's screw-type. > > The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the > tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is > out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare > parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > > They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like > $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a > project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but > now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm > thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ > might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > > Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the > running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly > close but entirely different? > > Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. |
Re: What's it worth?
DJs were the 2WD versions of the earlier CJs. If it does indeed have
a transfer case as you seem to indicate it probably is a CJ. The 60/40 bench seat was an option, fairly rare except for the Tuxedo Park model. Likewise the steel hardtops were a dealer installed option, Willys/Kaiser/AMC never actually built metal tops. They just bolted on, not actually part of the body as on sliding door postal jeeps (that arn't technically DJs as they were built by someone other than Willys/AMC- IIRC Rockwell) To pin down exactly what you're looking at try looking through the spotters guides at the Early CJ5 site: http://www.earlycj5.com/modules.php?...rtid=32&page=1 All the body parts (& complete bodies) are readily available, priced all the way from "It Keeps the Wind Out" to "Full Resto Factory Correct" ,J.C. Whitney is about the cheapest. A quick web search will bring up the pricier options. For some weird reason the "proper" fenders (short without the side marker indents) are about $300, the slightly later style (short with the indents) are about 1/3 of that. AFAIK they're otherwise identical. Check the frame around the spring hangers for cracks, especially if the serial # indicates it's a '57 or later - check here: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/history/serial.html As with the body all the mechancals are still available, usually at you local UAP. All the early CJs were pretty much the same mechanically so there's more good info on what to look for to be found here: http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/ http://www.thecj2apage.com/ Be Warned- if you want to build it for "Off Road" plan on a Saginaw steering conversion. If you're thinking resto plan on a major steering overhaul as the Ross setup needs EVERYTHING to be tight to keep the gray hairs away ;). Even for full on restos 11" brake/ dual MC upgrades are genearlly considered to be A Good Idea. $1200 does sound way outta line, basically you're buying a frame & some axles, & you're not sure if they're any good :(. Still, if its a project you're looking for these things ain't getting any commoner, especially in stock form. Good luck, let us know if you go for it- Howard http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:32:42 -0400, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote: > > >On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >type, not the 70's screw-type. > >The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > >They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >$400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a >project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > >Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >close but entirely different? > >Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > > > |
Re: What's it worth?
DJs were the 2WD versions of the earlier CJs. If it does indeed have
a transfer case as you seem to indicate it probably is a CJ. The 60/40 bench seat was an option, fairly rare except for the Tuxedo Park model. Likewise the steel hardtops were a dealer installed option, Willys/Kaiser/AMC never actually built metal tops. They just bolted on, not actually part of the body as on sliding door postal jeeps (that arn't technically DJs as they were built by someone other than Willys/AMC- IIRC Rockwell) To pin down exactly what you're looking at try looking through the spotters guides at the Early CJ5 site: http://www.earlycj5.com/modules.php?...rtid=32&page=1 All the body parts (& complete bodies) are readily available, priced all the way from "It Keeps the Wind Out" to "Full Resto Factory Correct" ,J.C. Whitney is about the cheapest. A quick web search will bring up the pricier options. For some weird reason the "proper" fenders (short without the side marker indents) are about $300, the slightly later style (short with the indents) are about 1/3 of that. AFAIK they're otherwise identical. Check the frame around the spring hangers for cracks, especially if the serial # indicates it's a '57 or later - check here: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/history/serial.html As with the body all the mechancals are still available, usually at you local UAP. All the early CJs were pretty much the same mechanically so there's more good info on what to look for to be found here: http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/ http://www.thecj2apage.com/ Be Warned- if you want to build it for "Off Road" plan on a Saginaw steering conversion. If you're thinking resto plan on a major steering overhaul as the Ross setup needs EVERYTHING to be tight to keep the gray hairs away ;). Even for full on restos 11" brake/ dual MC upgrades are genearlly considered to be A Good Idea. $1200 does sound way outta line, basically you're buying a frame & some axles, & you're not sure if they're any good :(. Still, if its a project you're looking for these things ain't getting any commoner, especially in stock form. Good luck, let us know if you go for it- Howard http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:32:42 -0400, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote: > > >On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >type, not the 70's screw-type. > >The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > >They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >$400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a >project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > >Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >close but entirely different? > >Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > > > |
Re: What's it worth?
DJs were the 2WD versions of the earlier CJs. If it does indeed have
a transfer case as you seem to indicate it probably is a CJ. The 60/40 bench seat was an option, fairly rare except for the Tuxedo Park model. Likewise the steel hardtops were a dealer installed option, Willys/Kaiser/AMC never actually built metal tops. They just bolted on, not actually part of the body as on sliding door postal jeeps (that arn't technically DJs as they were built by someone other than Willys/AMC- IIRC Rockwell) To pin down exactly what you're looking at try looking through the spotters guides at the Early CJ5 site: http://www.earlycj5.com/modules.php?...rtid=32&page=1 All the body parts (& complete bodies) are readily available, priced all the way from "It Keeps the Wind Out" to "Full Resto Factory Correct" ,J.C. Whitney is about the cheapest. A quick web search will bring up the pricier options. For some weird reason the "proper" fenders (short without the side marker indents) are about $300, the slightly later style (short with the indents) are about 1/3 of that. AFAIK they're otherwise identical. Check the frame around the spring hangers for cracks, especially if the serial # indicates it's a '57 or later - check here: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/history/serial.html As with the body all the mechancals are still available, usually at you local UAP. All the early CJs were pretty much the same mechanically so there's more good info on what to look for to be found here: http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/ http://www.thecj2apage.com/ Be Warned- if you want to build it for "Off Road" plan on a Saginaw steering conversion. If you're thinking resto plan on a major steering overhaul as the Ross setup needs EVERYTHING to be tight to keep the gray hairs away ;). Even for full on restos 11" brake/ dual MC upgrades are genearlly considered to be A Good Idea. $1200 does sound way outta line, basically you're buying a frame & some axles, & you're not sure if they're any good :(. Still, if its a project you're looking for these things ain't getting any commoner, especially in stock form. Good luck, let us know if you go for it- Howard http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:32:42 -0400, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote: > > >On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >type, not the 70's screw-type. > >The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". > >They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >$400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering for a >project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. > >Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >close but entirely different? > >Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > > > |
Re: What's it worth?
Yep, a real CJ and I was full of ----, as I figured out the next day on my way to work when I remembered that Jeep stretched the CJ to accomodate a bigger engine, hence what looked like stubby DJ fenders to me. The snorkle patch on the hood should have been a big clue. The steel top looks to be dealer-original, I couldn't find any snap holes for a soft top. The tub is the gateless flavor. I stopped and looked at it again today because I've been thinking that _maybe_ oh just _maybe_ I could have a hobby and make a few (very few, on an hourly basis) bucks too in the process: Fully restored it should be worth about $5500 or so, if I could put it back together for $3500... Well, it ain't gonna happen. The footwells are gone, someone scabbed diamond plate over the rear floor, the tub has old, peeling, fiberglass repairs slathered on both sides -- I'd be rebuilding the tub from the dash back (not that I don't enjoy a challenge, mind you). The rear crossmember is gone, the "V" frame pintle hitch braces are almost gone and I could see daylight through that C-channel frame under the rear wheelhouse. Even the front cross member has turned to flaky pie dough. That's a lot of frame repairs. Oh, and the rear door is missing (but the front ones have crank-up windows!) I'd mis-remembered the price too: They're asking $700, which is probably a bit more than it is worth parted out if I had buyers waiting. The $1200 figure came from the early-40s closed cab ex-military Dodge truck a little further down the road. It isn't in much better shape: Both doors need new bottoms, the floor's gone, brush guard is gone, missing some rims, no bed, and so on. Ah, well. I'd have had to rent space to store my `79 anyway if I got that early CJ. Bet those grapes are sour... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote: > That's a Real Civilian Jeep: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that > steel top, though. > The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left > the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg > The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial > trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust > out, like your AMC frame will. > -- > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Lee Ayrton wrote: >> >> On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >> of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >> it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >> it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >> tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >> drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >> frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >> type, not the 70's screw-type. >> >> The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >> tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >> out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >> parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". >> >> They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >> $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering fora >> project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >> now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >> thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >> might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. >> >> Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >> running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >> close but entirely different? >> >> Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > |
Re: What's it worth?
Yep, a real CJ and I was full of ----, as I figured out the next day on my way to work when I remembered that Jeep stretched the CJ to accomodate a bigger engine, hence what looked like stubby DJ fenders to me. The snorkle patch on the hood should have been a big clue. The steel top looks to be dealer-original, I couldn't find any snap holes for a soft top. The tub is the gateless flavor. I stopped and looked at it again today because I've been thinking that _maybe_ oh just _maybe_ I could have a hobby and make a few (very few, on an hourly basis) bucks too in the process: Fully restored it should be worth about $5500 or so, if I could put it back together for $3500... Well, it ain't gonna happen. The footwells are gone, someone scabbed diamond plate over the rear floor, the tub has old, peeling, fiberglass repairs slathered on both sides -- I'd be rebuilding the tub from the dash back (not that I don't enjoy a challenge, mind you). The rear crossmember is gone, the "V" frame pintle hitch braces are almost gone and I could see daylight through that C-channel frame under the rear wheelhouse. Even the front cross member has turned to flaky pie dough. That's a lot of frame repairs. Oh, and the rear door is missing (but the front ones have crank-up windows!) I'd mis-remembered the price too: They're asking $700, which is probably a bit more than it is worth parted out if I had buyers waiting. The $1200 figure came from the early-40s closed cab ex-military Dodge truck a little further down the road. It isn't in much better shape: Both doors need new bottoms, the floor's gone, brush guard is gone, missing some rims, no bed, and so on. Ah, well. I'd have had to rent space to store my `79 anyway if I got that early CJ. Bet those grapes are sour... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote: > That's a Real Civilian Jeep: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that > steel top, though. > The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left > the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg > The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial > trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust > out, like your AMC frame will. > -- > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Lee Ayrton wrote: >> >> On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >> of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >> it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >> it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >> tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >> drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >> frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >> type, not the 70's screw-type. >> >> The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >> tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >> out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >> parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". >> >> They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >> $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering fora >> project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >> now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >> thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >> might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. >> >> Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >> running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >> close but entirely different? >> >> Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > |
Re: What's it worth?
Yep, a real CJ and I was full of ----, as I figured out the next day on my way to work when I remembered that Jeep stretched the CJ to accomodate a bigger engine, hence what looked like stubby DJ fenders to me. The snorkle patch on the hood should have been a big clue. The steel top looks to be dealer-original, I couldn't find any snap holes for a soft top. The tub is the gateless flavor. I stopped and looked at it again today because I've been thinking that _maybe_ oh just _maybe_ I could have a hobby and make a few (very few, on an hourly basis) bucks too in the process: Fully restored it should be worth about $5500 or so, if I could put it back together for $3500... Well, it ain't gonna happen. The footwells are gone, someone scabbed diamond plate over the rear floor, the tub has old, peeling, fiberglass repairs slathered on both sides -- I'd be rebuilding the tub from the dash back (not that I don't enjoy a challenge, mind you). The rear crossmember is gone, the "V" frame pintle hitch braces are almost gone and I could see daylight through that C-channel frame under the rear wheelhouse. Even the front cross member has turned to flaky pie dough. That's a lot of frame repairs. Oh, and the rear door is missing (but the front ones have crank-up windows!) I'd mis-remembered the price too: They're asking $700, which is probably a bit more than it is worth parted out if I had buyers waiting. The $1200 figure came from the early-40s closed cab ex-military Dodge truck a little further down the road. It isn't in much better shape: Both doors need new bottoms, the floor's gone, brush guard is gone, missing some rims, no bed, and so on. Ah, well. I'd have had to rent space to store my `79 anyway if I got that early CJ. Bet those grapes are sour... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote: > That's a Real Civilian Jeep: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html No Jeeper would buy that > steel top, though. > The over center windshield latch are stock, and as soon as we left > the road off it came: http://www.----------.com/rexBarb.jpg > The open channel frame is the strongest, that's why all commercial > trucks use them, and an added bonus is they don't hold water and rust > out, like your AMC frame will. > -- > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Lee Ayrton wrote: >> >> On my way home from a job I stopped to look at a Jeep parted on the side >> of the road with a "For Sale" sign in the window. The sign claimed that >> it was a "CJ-5" but they obviously don't know what they are talking about, >> it was pretty clearly a DJ: fore-shortened hood and fenders, CJ-5 style >> tub with a factory metal hard top (swinging doors, not sliding), left hand >> drive, 2-piece front bench seat, 4 cyl, manual, 4WD. Old-style channel >> frame (not boxed) and the windshield latches are the early over-center >> type, not the 70's screw-type. >> >> The sheet metal is in tough shape, both fenders need replacement and the >> tub needs a lot of metal replacement in the usual places. The radiator is >> out of the truck and the sign claims "Needs head gasket -- have spare >> parts". Uh huh, that means "not running". >> >> They're asking $1200, obviously way too high. I'm thinking more like >> $400. I'm not really serious about this (I've developed a hankering fora >> project Duster from the early 70s -- if I can find the garage space), but >> now that my `79 -5 is done I don't have anything to tinker with, and I'm >> thinking it might be nice to learn a little tin-knocking. A little DJ >> might be kinda fun. Learn some sheet metal welding. >> >> Anyone know if sheet metal is available for DJ-series Jeeps? Was the >> running gear very different from standard CJs? Or is it all frustratingly >> close but entirely different? >> >> Clues, warnings and URLs gratefully accepted. > |
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