"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.

<snip>

> A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> levers.

while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --

No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.

And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --

No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.

And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Of course, it's not a problem for Real Jeeps, using floating
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com

 

Of course, it's not a problem for Real Jeeps, using floating
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.

i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.

i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --

Agreed.

I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.

We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.

Mike

 

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --

Agreed.

I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.

We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.

Mike

 

I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
well but perhaps be a bit quieter?


Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> mud season for $85 each.
>
> Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
>
> After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> snow and mud then my AT's were.
> I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> year in and year out.
>
> You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> plowing it in the winter. ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
>
> 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
>
>
>
> John Welch wrote:
> > 99 Wrangler.
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > better compromise.
> > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> > John Welch
> >
> >>/<
> >