You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.

Norm

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
After some research, here is an interesting theory :

The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.

Did you do Classics out of interest ?

From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
have strayed somewhat off topic !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was in
> use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
before
> professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
Arabs
> ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
>
> May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
period
> > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
Soldiers
> > would receive.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> symbolising
> > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole strong.
> The
> > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> >
> > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> derogatory
> > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> >
> > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the ritual
> > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> (plural
> > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > fertile.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
the
> > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are bundles
of
> > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > Fascists
> > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
is
> a
> > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the quotation
> > from
> > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.

Norm

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
After some research, here is an interesting theory :

The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.

Did you do Classics out of interest ?

From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
have strayed somewhat off topic !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was in
> use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
before
> professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
Arabs
> ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
>
> May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
period
> > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
Soldiers
> > would receive.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> symbolising
> > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole strong.
> The
> > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> >
> > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> derogatory
> > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> >
> > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the ritual
> > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> (plural
> > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > fertile.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
the
> > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are bundles
of
> > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > Fascists
> > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
is
> a
> > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the quotation
> > from
> > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.

Norm

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
After some research, here is an interesting theory :

The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.

Did you do Classics out of interest ?

From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
have strayed somewhat off topic !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was in
> use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
before
> professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
Arabs
> ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
>
> May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
period
> > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
Soldiers
> > would receive.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> symbolising
> > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole strong.
> The
> > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> >
> > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> derogatory
> > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> >
> > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the ritual
> > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> (plural
> > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > fertile.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
the
> > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are bundles
of
> > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > Fascists
> > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
is
> a
> > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the quotation
> > from
> > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

The HITLER museum?
try this.
http://www.vvwca.com/features/history/

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

The HITLER museum?
try this.
http://www.vvwca.com/features/history/

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

The HITLER museum?
try this.
http://www.vvwca.com/features/history/

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

Very enjoyable conversing with you too !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:65BHd.11673$ox3.10506@attbi_s04...
> You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.
>
> Norm
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> After some research, here is an interesting theory :
>
> The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
> someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
> Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.
>
> Did you do Classics out of interest ?
>
> From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
> have strayed somewhat off topic !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> > people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> > corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was
in
> > use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
> before
> > professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
> Arabs
> > ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
> >
> > May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
> period
> > > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
> Soldiers
> > > would receive.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> > symbolising
> > > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole
strong.
> > The
> > > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> > >
> > > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> > derogatory
> > > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> > >
> > > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the
ritual
> > > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> > (plural
> > > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > > fertile.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
> the
> > > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are
bundles
> of
> > > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > > Fascists
> > > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
> is
> > a
> > > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the
quotation
> > > from
> > > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

Very enjoyable conversing with you too !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:65BHd.11673$ox3.10506@attbi_s04...
> You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.
>
> Norm
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> After some research, here is an interesting theory :
>
> The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
> someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
> Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.
>
> Did you do Classics out of interest ?
>
> From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
> have strayed somewhat off topic !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> > people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> > corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was
in
> > use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
> before
> > professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
> Arabs
> > ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
> >
> > May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
> period
> > > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
> Soldiers
> > > would receive.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> > symbolising
> > > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole
strong.
> > The
> > > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> > >
> > > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> > derogatory
> > > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> > >
> > > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the
ritual
> > > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> > (plural
> > > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > > fertile.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
> the
> > > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are
bundles
> of
> > > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > > Fascists
> > > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
> is
> > a
> > > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the
quotation
> > > from
> > > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

Very enjoyable conversing with you too !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:65BHd.11673$ox3.10506@attbi_s04...
> You're right again. It has been nice conversing with you.
>
> Norm
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:oWAHd.14109$GG1.5821@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> After some research, here is an interesting theory :
>
> The Greek word for witness is "parastates" (someone who stands next to
> someone else), also is the Greek word for ********* ; it could be that the
> Romans adopted the Greek double meaning.
>
> Did you do Classics out of interest ?
>
> From *****, to Sticks, now *********. Amazing conversation, but I think we
> have strayed somewhat off topic !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:AIAHd.14101$GG1.9392@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Possibly - testis means "witness" as your explanation suggests, but some
> > people believe ********* (from the plural testis) may have come from a
> > corruption of testa - a pot. I'm fairly sure testis (as in witness) was
in
> > use as a Roman word before there were Roman soldiers (well certainly
> before
> > professional soldiers as opposed to conscripts). Other civilisations (
> Arabs
> > ??) used to grab their nuts when swearing oaths on things.
> >
> > May be a "chicken and egg" situation :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:GlAHd.12491$4I2.2957@attbi_s01...
> > > You're exactly right Dave. The term testimony came from that same
> period
> > > when a Roman Soldier would hold his ********* in his hands while being
> > > questioned. Also the term salary came from the salt ration Roman
> Soldiers
> > > would receive.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:YcAHd.14063$GG1.4242@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > Actually, it was called that in the days of the Roman Republic,
> > symbolising
> > > unity - each stick was weak, but wrapped together made the whole
strong.
> > The
> > > symbolic bundle was carried by Roman magistrates.
> > >
> > > On the topic of sticks, seeing I'm on a roll here, "------" is a
> > derogatory
> > > name for homosexual as we used to burn them.
> > >
> > > And lastly,but not least, February is named "February" after the
ritual
> > > where blokes would run around hitting naked women with the "februa"
> > (plural
> > > of februum) which was a whip or stick. We did this to make women more
> > > fertile.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Norm & Debbie" <nwpars@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vXyHd.12436$4I2.9978@attbi_s01...
> > > > Bill, we know that it is a form of government, but do you know where
> the
> > > > term originated? On the Italian Blackshirts' party badge are
bundles
> of
> > > > wrapped sticks called fascis (sp?). IL Duce's movement was called
> > > Fascists
> > > > after the bundles of wrapped sticks on their badges.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:41EEB91B.FE334BFD@***.net...
> > > > Debbie, please research Fascism:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Norm & Debbie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Again Bill, please research that period in Germany. The term ****
> is
> > a
> > > > > contraction of the term National Socialism. As far as the
quotation
> > > from
> > > > > Adolf Hitler - he never said it. Please research it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Whoops, this one
http://www.vvwca.com/features/history/porsche/

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Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California