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Gactimus 01-17-2005 06:12 PM

What if the Nazis were nice?
 
Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.

Douglas D. Anderson 01-17-2005 07:42 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 

"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


Unfortunately that never would have happened. The factor which pulled
Germany's manifold splintered factions together was the myth of the evil
Jew as common enemy. In his earlier days Hitler practiced hypocrisies
as employing Ernst Rohm, openly homosexual, as were many of his top
associates, as his military commander. In that context of the early Hitler,
it would be conceivable for him to have condemned Jews as the national
scapegoat and simultaneously to have employed Jewish scientists to develop
weapons. But as the "Third Reich" advanced, Hitler became the image he
projected, and felt compelled to have Rohm and all of his homosexual
comrades executed, and he was likewise compelled to exterminate Jews,
not just point his finger at them, in order to gain power. So what would
have happened if Hitler had been killed before all that? Probably the same
thing, essentially, because other men were competing for the leadership of
the National Socialist movement, who would have been happy to take over.
Likewise, Germany did not have the immense resources which the United
States had in order to develop the bomb. It was a long long way from
making some heavy water to actually having a practical bomb. Hitler was
reluctant to make any big investment in that area, and really that would not
have been too smart.



Douglas D. Anderson 01-17-2005 07:42 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 

"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


Unfortunately that never would have happened. The factor which pulled
Germany's manifold splintered factions together was the myth of the evil
Jew as common enemy. In his earlier days Hitler practiced hypocrisies
as employing Ernst Rohm, openly homosexual, as were many of his top
associates, as his military commander. In that context of the early Hitler,
it would be conceivable for him to have condemned Jews as the national
scapegoat and simultaneously to have employed Jewish scientists to develop
weapons. But as the "Third Reich" advanced, Hitler became the image he
projected, and felt compelled to have Rohm and all of his homosexual
comrades executed, and he was likewise compelled to exterminate Jews,
not just point his finger at them, in order to gain power. So what would
have happened if Hitler had been killed before all that? Probably the same
thing, essentially, because other men were competing for the leadership of
the National Socialist movement, who would have been happy to take over.
Likewise, Germany did not have the immense resources which the United
States had in order to develop the bomb. It was a long long way from
making some heavy water to actually having a practical bomb. Hitler was
reluctant to make any big investment in that area, and really that would not
have been too smart.



Douglas D. Anderson 01-17-2005 07:42 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 

"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


Unfortunately that never would have happened. The factor which pulled
Germany's manifold splintered factions together was the myth of the evil
Jew as common enemy. In his earlier days Hitler practiced hypocrisies
as employing Ernst Rohm, openly homosexual, as were many of his top
associates, as his military commander. In that context of the early Hitler,
it would be conceivable for him to have condemned Jews as the national
scapegoat and simultaneously to have employed Jewish scientists to develop
weapons. But as the "Third Reich" advanced, Hitler became the image he
projected, and felt compelled to have Rohm and all of his homosexual
comrades executed, and he was likewise compelled to exterminate Jews,
not just point his finger at them, in order to gain power. So what would
have happened if Hitler had been killed before all that? Probably the same
thing, essentially, because other men were competing for the leadership of
the National Socialist movement, who would have been happy to take over.
Likewise, Germany did not have the immense resources which the United
States had in order to develop the bomb. It was a long long way from
making some heavy water to actually having a practical bomb. Hitler was
reluctant to make any big investment in that area, and really that would not
have been too smart.



Jeff Strickland 01-17-2005 07:47 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
Nice Nazis would not have attempted to overrun all of Europe, and drag the
entire continent into a socialist/facist empire.




"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.




Jeff Strickland 01-17-2005 07:47 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
Nice Nazis would not have attempted to overrun all of Europe, and drag the
entire continent into a socialist/facist empire.




"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.




Jeff Strickland 01-17-2005 07:47 PM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
Nice Nazis would not have attempted to overrun all of Europe, and drag the
entire continent into a socialist/facist empire.




"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
> Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
> have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
> in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
> not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.




Mel 01-18-2005 08:01 AM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:12:47 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
message <PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
>Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
>Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
>have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
>in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
>not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


no more nazi threads in atj.

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Mel 01-18-2005 08:01 AM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:12:47 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
message <PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
>Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
>Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
>have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
>in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
>not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


no more nazi threads in atj.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/

Mel 01-18-2005 08:01 AM

Re: What if the Nazis were nice?
 
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:12:47 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
message <PDXGd.29026$Xs6.2854@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
>Nice Nazis could have got the Jews to help them with the bomb. Nice
>Nazis would have got far more Russian collaborators and perhaps not
>have inspired the stubborn resistance of the Russians and the British
>in WWII. "Nice" might have made the difference. And while they would
>not have won they would have concluded a beneficial peace treaty.


no more nazi threads in atj.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/


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