weld-on accessories
10-17-2003, 04:14 AM
#81
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Re: weld-on accessories
:-)
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
10-17-2003, 04:14 AM
#82
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
:-)
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
10-17-2003, 11:11 AM
#83
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
You can also back up and hit the same rock/tree on the other side and tell
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
10-17-2003, 11:11 AM
#84
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
You can also back up and hit the same rock/tree on the other side and tell
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
10-17-2003, 11:11 AM
#85
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
You can also back up and hit the same rock/tree on the other side and tell
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
everyone it came that way...
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IxNjb.266$gZ6.2147471@news-text.cableinet.net...
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
> : times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
> : ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
> : already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
> : that won't do that so easily again.
> :
> : Cheers!
> : Perry
> :
> :
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I
can
> : > always straighten it out...
> : >
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> : > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
> MPH
> : > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
> think
> : > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> : > :
> : > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and
over
> : > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed
a
> : > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> : > :
> : > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more
rigid
> : > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
> see.
> : > :
> : > : Perry
> : > :
> : > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : MikeG wrote:
> : > : > Hi Nathan,
> : > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'.
The
> : > whole
> : > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
> bullet
> : > proof,
> : > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's
alot
> : > cheaper
> : > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > : > MikeG
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : > : >
> : > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs
im
> : > : >
> : > : > working
> : > : >
> : > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
> bumpers
> : > : >
> : > : > that
> : > : >
> : > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> : > stronger
> : > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
> design
> : > was
> : > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> : > sliders
> : > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : > : >>thanks,
> : > : >>
> : > : >>--
> : > : >>
> : > : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
10-17-2003, 11:30 AM
#86
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Re: weld-on accessories
I've done that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
10-17-2003, 11:30 AM
#87
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Re: weld-on accessories
I've done that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
10-17-2003, 11:30 AM
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
I've done that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> :-)
> winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
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