Watch those parts weasles
01-30-2007, 10:12 PM
#81
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Outatime proclaimed:
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>> would
>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>> last for
>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>
>
>
> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But not
> for me.
>
> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>
> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom teakettle
> from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap made in
> China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the box to be
> re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk plastic
> parts on it I've ever seen.
>
> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas is
> everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks they
> have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>> would
>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>> last for
>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>
>
>
> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But not
> for me.
>
> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>
> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom teakettle
> from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap made in
> China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the box to be
> re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk plastic
> parts on it I've ever seen.
>
> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas is
> everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks they
> have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
01-30-2007, 10:15 PM
#82
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Just buy Calphalon and be done with it.
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
01-30-2007, 10:15 PM
#83
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Posts: n/a
Re: Watch those parts weasles
Just buy Calphalon and be done with it.
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
01-30-2007, 10:15 PM
#84
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Just buy Calphalon and be done with it.
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
01-30-2007, 10:15 PM
#85
Guest
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Just buy Calphalon and be done with it.
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, the whole world over people want a new car every few years and
>>> would
>>> rather pay their 20K every 5 years than pay 40K for one that would
>>> last for
>>> 20. Then they argue about spending a few extra quid on an synthetic oil
>>> change for the same cost as a tank of petrol.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a fact for most here in the USA. Price is everything. But
>> not for me.
>>
>> Cheap crap has its place: garbage bags, toilet paper and sandwich bags
>> from overseas is fine for me. But when it comes to durable goods, top
>> drawer is what I seek. Major appliances, automobiles, heavy-haul
>> tractors and trailers, tires, and even writing pens ALL must be
>> top-quality, domestic-made products. I will not accept anything less.
>>
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap crap
>> made in China, brazenly stamped into the copper. It went back in the
>> box to be re-gifted at Christmas. It had the cheapest, flimsiest junk
>> plastic parts on it I've ever seen.
>>
>> I think my next kitchenware purchase will be made in person, at a shop
>> where I can see the goods before I buy. Cheap garbage from overseas
>> is everywhere, and brand names mean NOTHING anymore. Everyone thinks
>> they have sell out, to sell product. Price is everything.
>
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
>
> There are decent cook sets available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond,
> but watch out for products that have names close to the better brands.
> Luckily with aluminum cookware, generally the thicker the stuff is the
> better it tends to be. The cheap crap doesn't seem to want to waste
> aluminum. Teflon coating isn't always a good sign, I've seem aluminum
> foil thick pan sets with fairly decent teflon. I've also seen good
> stuff on pretty decent sale at department stores.
>
--
ÐÏࡱá
01-30-2007, 10:32 PM
#86
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
01-30-2007, 10:32 PM
#87
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
01-30-2007, 10:32 PM
#88
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Posts: n/a
Re: Watch those parts weasles
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
01-30-2007, 10:32 PM
#89
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
Lon wrote:
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
> Outatime proclaimed:
>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your problem.
> I think Revere Ware may have gone cheap, much like Singer, KLH, etc.
> where you just get crap--worse often expensive crap.
Calphalon is what I prefer for cookware. Don't know if they make
a teakettle or not.
--
DougW
01-31-2007, 08:47 AM
#90
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Re: Watch those parts weasles
>>> I just ordered and received a 2.5 qt. Revereware copper-bottom
>>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
My wife bought a GE (General Electric) microwave, don't know where it was
made, but as soon as I registered the warrantee online I was bombarded by
spam. They sold my info! Fortunately I have a 3rd email address on yahoo
just for things like that.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>>> teakettle from Ace Hardware in NY City. Guess what I got? Cheap
My wife bought a GE (General Electric) microwave, don't know where it was
made, but as soon as I registered the warrantee online I was bombarded by
spam. They sold my info! Fortunately I have a 3rd email address on yahoo
just for things like that.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty