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Mike Romain 05-09-2004 09:57 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 05-09-2004 09:57 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 05-09-2004 09:57 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >


Daren McMorris 05-09-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




Daren McMorris 05-09-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




Daren McMorris 05-09-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




Daren McMorris 05-09-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




SB 05-09-2004 12:22 PM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




SB 05-09-2004 12:22 PM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >




SB 05-09-2004 12:22 PM

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 
I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power

according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my

> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can

this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >





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