Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my only
conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
be purchased at a parts store?

Daren McMorris

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Hi Daren,
This is not a motor you'll be able to order via your local parts
store. I'd try one of Warn's eight hundred numbers to see if one of
their current models use the same motor, and of course it's costs,
buttering them up the whole time:
http://www.warn.com/corporate/authservicecenters.shtml A quick look
inside the two bolts that hold the motor on should tell the problem, if
it overheated and threw solder from the winding at the armature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Hi Daren,
This is not a motor you'll be able to order via your local parts
store. I'd try one of Warn's eight hundred numbers to see if one of
their current models use the same motor, and of course it's costs,
buttering them up the whole time:
http://www.warn.com/corporate/authservicecenters.shtml A quick look
inside the two bolts that hold the motor on should tell the problem, if
it overheated and threw solder from the winding at the armature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Hi Daren,
This is not a motor you'll be able to order via your local parts
store. I'd try one of Warn's eight hundred numbers to see if one of
their current models use the same motor, and of course it's costs,
buttering them up the whole time:
http://www.warn.com/corporate/authservicecenters.shtml A quick look
inside the two bolts that hold the motor on should tell the problem, if
it overheated and threw solder from the winding at the armature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Hi Daren,
This is not a motor you'll be able to order via your local parts
store. I'd try one of Warn's eight hundred numbers to see if one of
their current models use the same motor, and of course it's costs,
buttering them up the whole time:
http://www.warn.com/corporate/authservicecenters.shtml A quick look
inside the two bolts that hold the motor on should tell the problem, if
it overheated and threw solder from the winding at the armature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
problem is....might work.

looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
motor/electrical.

How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?

"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris
>
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
problem is....might work.

looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
motor/electrical.

How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?

"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris
>
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
problem is....might work.

looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
motor/electrical.

How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?

"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris
>
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
problem is....might work.

looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
motor/electrical.

How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?

"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
only
> conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> be purchased at a parts store?
>
> Daren McMorris
>
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?

Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?

It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.

I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
melted.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> problem is....might work.
>
> looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> motor/electrical.
>
> How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
>
> "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power according to
> > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> only
> > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can this
> > be purchased at a parts store?
> >
> > Daren McMorris
> >
> >
> >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
wasn't even warmed up yet.

My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
Bill. Thanks.

I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
(it did fall straight down though).

A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
motor rebuilt....seemed to work.

Daren


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
>
> Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
>
> It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
>
> I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> melted.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > problem is....might work.
> >
> > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > motor/electrical.
> >
> > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> >
> > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
according to
> > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > only
> > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
this
> > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > >
> > > Daren McMorris
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Id' guess that the same places that do alternators would do these.

Basically check the stator for straightness and make sure your commutators
are alright. Then rewrap your coils....bearings are obvious too....


"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uernc.25010$jU.1664320@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's
not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and
it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor
terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call
warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That
stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Id' guess that the same places that do alternators would do these.

Basically check the stator for straightness and make sure your commutators
are alright. Then rewrap your coils....bearings are obvious too....


"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uernc.25010$jU.1664320@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's
not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and
it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor
terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call
warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That
stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Id' guess that the same places that do alternators would do these.

Basically check the stator for straightness and make sure your commutators
are alright. Then rewrap your coils....bearings are obvious too....


"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uernc.25010$jU.1664320@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's
not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and
it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor
terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call
warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That
stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Id' guess that the same places that do alternators would do these.

Basically check the stator for straightness and make sure your commutators
are alright. Then rewrap your coils....bearings are obvious too....


"Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uernc.25010$jU.1664320@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's
not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and
it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor
terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call
warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That
stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

No, the rope wouldn't sink any heat away so the hot part would just get
hotter. The rope would act more like an insulator.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

No, the rope wouldn't sink any heat away so the hot part would just get
hotter. The rope would act more like an insulator.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

No, the rope wouldn't sink any heat away so the hot part would just get
hotter. The rope would act more like an insulator.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

No, the rope wouldn't sink any heat away so the hot part would just get
hotter. The rope would act more like an insulator.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one? Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.

Daren

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9Vsnc.1753$n7P1.782@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a
cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were
made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.

Daren

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9Vsnc.1753$n7P1.782@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a
cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were
made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.

Daren

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9Vsnc.1753$n7P1.782@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a
cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were
made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.

Daren

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9Vsnc.1753$n7P1.782@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> I've seen the results of a lightning strike that happened to hit a
cable-way
> at an airport. It actually hit the pull-pit where most junctions were
made.
> It fused a bunch of wires in to one mass and some were just blown apart.
> Would the sythetic rope melt to itself if it was supposed to sink heat?
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409E38DD.EE3F9406@sympatico.ca...
> > Is the blown motor why Warn says 'not' to use the synthetic rope?
> >
> > Isn't that where they say the motor will overheat and die?
> >
> > It uses the steel rope as a heat sink.
> >
> > I would say it's time to open it up and see where the solder connection
> > melted.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure I'd call that a complete rebuild. But depending on what you
> > > problem is....might work.
> > >
> > > looked more of a mechanical overhaul. He didn't do anything with the
> > > motor/electrical.
> > >
> > > How does that synthetic rope compare to wire rope?
> > >
> > > "Daren McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iUgnc.20518$jU.1535969@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > > > All Solenoids are functioning properly and distributing power
> according to
> > > > the schematic. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/ Now
my
> > > only
> > > > conclusion is that there is a problem with the motor. Here is my
> > > > question....Is it cheaper for a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt one?
Can
> this
> > > > be purchased at a parts store?
> > > >
> > > > Daren McMorris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

"only been running it for a minute or two" You know it's just a
starter motor with a reversible field, about a quarter of the size of a
road tractor motor that will only last a maximum of ten seconds before
it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

"only been running it for a minute or two" You know it's just a
starter motor with a reversible field, about a quarter of the size of a
road tractor motor that will only last a maximum of ten seconds before
it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

"only been running it for a minute or two" You know it's just a
starter motor with a reversible field, about a quarter of the size of a
road tractor motor that will only last a maximum of ten seconds before
it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

"only been running it for a minute or two" You know it's just a
starter motor with a reversible field, about a quarter of the size of a
road tractor motor that will only last a maximum of ten seconds before
it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> That link is just one I found to outline the test for the motor. That's not
> my rebuild. I have a completely different situation, motor quite running
> while in operation. I had only been running it for a minute or two, and it
> wasn't even warmed up yet.
>
> My solenoids are pulling in, power is going to the correct motor terminals,
> and connections are freshly cleaned. Has to be in the motor. I call warn,
> Bill. Thanks.
>
> I have the standard 5/16 aircraft cable not the synthetic rope. That stuff
> has not impress me as a EROCC judge....saw it snap several times last year
> (it did fall straight down though).
>
> A buddy of mine went to a local "starter" rebuild shop and had his 8274
> motor rebuilt....seemed to work.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Plausible, as long as all the parts are metal then heat will be
transferred, what do you think these reduction gears are?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...4/Dcp_4063.jpg Probably, the
remnants form the rope manufacture are stuffed into your home for
installation.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
> approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
> Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
> the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
> motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Plausible, as long as all the parts are metal then heat will be
transferred, what do you think these reduction gears are?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...4/Dcp_4063.jpg Probably, the
remnants form the rope manufacture are stuffed into your home for
installation.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
> approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
> Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
> the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
> motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.
>
> Daren

Re: Warn 8274 Motor Problems
 

Plausible, as long as all the parts are metal then heat will be
transferred, what do you think these reduction gears are?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...4/Dcp_4063.jpg Probably, the
remnants form the rope manufacture are stuffed into your home for
installation.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Daren McMorris wrote:
>
> I've seen the synthetic rope on just about every winch made. EROCC ran
> approx 60 vehicles each competition and NEVER saw any winch failures.
> Believe me these winches were worked hard. I don't think that on an 8274
> the cable acts as a sink for the motor....the transfer of heat from the
> motor, to the gear box, and then finally to the cable roll is not plausible.
>
> Daren