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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and >> are too stunned to realize it. >> >> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot! > > > As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not > understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of > knowledge and understanding. Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to realize it or even to read the thread. Enough said.... Mike |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46714e27$0$3687$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > SnoMan wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking > >> about and are too stunned to realize it. > >> > >> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot! > > > > > > As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not > > understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own > > lack of knowledge and understanding. > > Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about > because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to > realize it or even to read the thread. > The best place for these types is the killfile. I have seen enough of SnoMan's wisdom to last me a long, long time. Saludos cordiales, Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46714e27$0$3687$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > SnoMan wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking > >> about and are too stunned to realize it. > >> > >> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot! > > > > > > As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not > > understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own > > lack of knowledge and understanding. > > Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about > because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to > realize it or even to read the thread. > The best place for these types is the killfile. I have seen enough of SnoMan's wisdom to last me a long, long time. Saludos cordiales, Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46714e27$0$3687$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > SnoMan wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking > >> about and are too stunned to realize it. > >> > >> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot! > > > > > > As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not > > understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own > > lack of knowledge and understanding. > > Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about > because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to > realize it or even to read the thread. > The best place for these types is the killfile. I have seen enough of SnoMan's wisdom to last me a long, long time. Saludos cordiales, Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46714e27$0$3687$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > SnoMan wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking > >> about and are too stunned to realize it. > >> > >> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot! > > > > > > As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not > > understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own > > lack of knowledge and understanding. > > Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about > because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to > realize it or even to read the thread. > The best place for these types is the killfile. I have seen enough of SnoMan's wisdom to last me a long, long time. Saludos cordiales, Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 14, 10:01 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
> What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook > and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service > manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world > experience. > > We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens, > especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar. > The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained > properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap. > > Saludos cordiales, > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > > news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > > Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should > > bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous > heater, > > but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by > > causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is > > piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides > quicker > > heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating > > temperature. > > > I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor > > clutch. > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote in message > >news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. > > > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism. > > > > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing > > > as > > > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater". > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Earle > > > > "stilllearning" <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegro ups.com... > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the > > >> A/C clutch? > > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater? > > > >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating: > > > >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the > > >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the > > >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator. > > > >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and > > >> until the coolant is hot. > > > >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the > > >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater > > >> heat the cabin immediately? > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why am I interested in supposedly useless information? (1) I find the engine innards fascinating. I am amazed at how human innovativeness has created such a beautiful, intricate and harmonious machine which just about all of us take for granted. The automatic transmission is about the most complex and ingenious machine I know. (2) I plan to overhaul my engine in due course. I must know every insignificant object under the hood, know exactly why it is required and how it works. I plan to absorb everything in the service manual - all the thousands of pages. Don't laugh - eventually I plan to overhaul the automatic transmission. (3) I have already done some service myself - I plan to do most, if not all of it. I need all the information I can get. I hope in the process others also gain appreciation and insight into their vehicles. |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 14, 10:01 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
> What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook > and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service > manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world > experience. > > We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens, > especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar. > The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained > properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap. > > Saludos cordiales, > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > > news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > > Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should > > bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous > heater, > > but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by > > causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is > > piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides > quicker > > heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating > > temperature. > > > I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor > > clutch. > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote in message > >news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. > > > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism. > > > > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing > > > as > > > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater". > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Earle > > > > "stilllearning" <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegro ups.com... > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the > > >> A/C clutch? > > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater? > > > >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating: > > > >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the > > >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the > > >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator. > > > >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and > > >> until the coolant is hot. > > > >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the > > >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater > > >> heat the cabin immediately? > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why am I interested in supposedly useless information? (1) I find the engine innards fascinating. I am amazed at how human innovativeness has created such a beautiful, intricate and harmonious machine which just about all of us take for granted. The automatic transmission is about the most complex and ingenious machine I know. (2) I plan to overhaul my engine in due course. I must know every insignificant object under the hood, know exactly why it is required and how it works. I plan to absorb everything in the service manual - all the thousands of pages. Don't laugh - eventually I plan to overhaul the automatic transmission. (3) I have already done some service myself - I plan to do most, if not all of it. I need all the information I can get. I hope in the process others also gain appreciation and insight into their vehicles. |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 14, 10:01 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
> What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook > and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service > manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world > experience. > > We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens, > especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar. > The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained > properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap. > > Saludos cordiales, > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > > news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > > Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should > > bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous > heater, > > but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by > > causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is > > piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides > quicker > > heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating > > temperature. > > > I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor > > clutch. > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote in message > >news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. > > > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism. > > > > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing > > > as > > > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater". > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Earle > > > > "stilllearning" <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegro ups.com... > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the > > >> A/C clutch? > > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater? > > > >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating: > > > >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the > > >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the > > >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator. > > > >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and > > >> until the coolant is hot. > > > >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the > > >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater > > >> heat the cabin immediately? > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why am I interested in supposedly useless information? (1) I find the engine innards fascinating. I am amazed at how human innovativeness has created such a beautiful, intricate and harmonious machine which just about all of us take for granted. The automatic transmission is about the most complex and ingenious machine I know. (2) I plan to overhaul my engine in due course. I must know every insignificant object under the hood, know exactly why it is required and how it works. I plan to absorb everything in the service manual - all the thousands of pages. Don't laugh - eventually I plan to overhaul the automatic transmission. (3) I have already done some service myself - I plan to do most, if not all of it. I need all the information I can get. I hope in the process others also gain appreciation and insight into their vehicles. |
Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 14, 10:01 am, "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote:
> What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook > and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service > manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world > experience. > > We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens, > especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar. > The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained > properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap. > > Saludos cordiales, > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > > news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > > Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should > > bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous > heater, > > but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by > > causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is > > piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides > quicker > > heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating > > temperature. > > > I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor > > clutch. > > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burg...@usa.com> wrote in message > >news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. > > > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism. > > > > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing > > > as > > > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater". > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Earle > > > > "stilllearning" <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegro ups.com... > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the > > >> A/C clutch? > > > >> Where exactly is the viscous heater? > > > >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating: > > > >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the > > >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the > > >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator. > > > >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and > > >> until the coolant is hot. > > > >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the > > >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater > > >> heat the cabin immediately? > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why am I interested in supposedly useless information? (1) I find the engine innards fascinating. I am amazed at how human innovativeness has created such a beautiful, intricate and harmonious machine which just about all of us take for granted. The automatic transmission is about the most complex and ingenious machine I know. (2) I plan to overhaul my engine in due course. I must know every insignificant object under the hood, know exactly why it is required and how it works. I plan to absorb everything in the service manual - all the thousands of pages. Don't laugh - eventually I plan to overhaul the automatic transmission. (3) I have already done some service myself - I plan to do most, if not all of it. I need all the information I can get. I hope in the process others also gain appreciation and insight into their vehicles. |
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