Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>> A/C clutch?
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
> manual:
>
> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>
>

Neat, that's a totally new toy to break down.

I can't say as I really would want one, but it is neat to have an actual
fluid heater for the coolant. I wonder how many HP it eats up with it's
friction drive?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>> A/C clutch?
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
> manual:
>
> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>
>

Neat, that's a totally new toy to break down.

I can't say as I really would want one, but it is neat to have an actual
fluid heater for the coolant. I wonder how many HP it eats up with it's
friction drive?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>> A/C clutch?
>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
> manual:
>
> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>
>

Neat, that's a totally new toy to break down.

I can't say as I really would want one, but it is neat to have an actual
fluid heater for the coolant. I wonder how many HP it eats up with it's
friction drive?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Naw, I could read it. It is a new toy. A 'friction' heater for the
coolant to help the inside have warm air faster than if not plugged in
in the winter.

Just something expensive to wear out in my opinion.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> The text is unreadable, but it looks like an air conditioning refrigerant
> compressor.
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181753677.414884.69910@j4g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>>> A/C clutch?
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
>> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
>> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
>> manual:
>>
>> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Naw, I could read it. It is a new toy. A 'friction' heater for the
coolant to help the inside have warm air faster than if not plugged in
in the winter.

Just something expensive to wear out in my opinion.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> The text is unreadable, but it looks like an air conditioning refrigerant
> compressor.
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181753677.414884.69910@j4g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>>> A/C clutch?
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
>> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
>> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
>> manual:
>>
>> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Naw, I could read it. It is a new toy. A 'friction' heater for the
coolant to help the inside have warm air faster than if not plugged in
in the winter.

Just something expensive to wear out in my opinion.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> The text is unreadable, but it looks like an air conditioning refrigerant
> compressor.
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181753677.414884.69910@j4g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>>> A/C clutch?
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
>> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
>> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
>> manual:
>>
>> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Naw, I could read it. It is a new toy. A 'friction' heater for the
coolant to help the inside have warm air faster than if not plugged in
in the winter.

Just something expensive to wear out in my opinion.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> The text is unreadable, but it looks like an air conditioning refrigerant
> compressor.
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181753677.414884.69910@j4g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On Jun 13, 10:52 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>>>> A/C clutch?
>>>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>>>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>>>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>>>> until the coolant is hot.
>>>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>>>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>>>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Seems the viscous heater is esoteric enough that googling "viscous
>> heater clutch" returns no entries! More information on the viscous
>> heater clutch; here are three relevant pages from the factory service
>> manual:
>>
>> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/shahswim...60762403547730
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous heater,
but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides quicker
heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
temperature.

I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
clutch.

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
>
> Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> as
> "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous heater,
but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides quicker
heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
temperature.

I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
clutch.

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
>
> Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> as
> "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 

Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous heater,
but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides quicker
heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
temperature.

I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
clutch.

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
>
> Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> as
> "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>