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Roy 06-14-2007 07:27 AM

Re: Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:0582739nt06pa72uggn2henvf8gthi8ppv@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>>are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>>Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>


At aadt we refer to him as the "Idiot"

> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.



Thus your most recent post.

>
> I do not come to NG's to stalk anyone and if it seems I am stalking
> you it is because you are basically one of the biggest BS'ers out
> there and post a lot of tripe too leaving yourself wide open when you
> post things that are not correct.



Well Idiot, you have described yourself and your actions.


>Some people (not trolls like your
> self) come to NG's for info


Hopefully those looking for info will not look to most of the BS you post.

>while you come for ego. Maybe if you
> controled your ego and posted less BS you would find that less of what
> you posted would be challanged.


That is what folks at numerous groups and forums have been trying to get you
to do, STFU
>
> BTW, if I really wanted to stalk you, it would take far more time than
> I care to spent in NG's because you seem to post a lot of tripe and I
> would not waste my time trying to read and respond to it all.


Hell, why don't YOU respond to the wrong and at time's dangerous stuff you
have posted in various groups over the past year or so?

Let me adjust that sig again for ya.

> -----------------
> TheWrongAnswerMan.com




Roy 06-14-2007 07:27 AM

Re: Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:0582739nt06pa72uggn2henvf8gthi8ppv@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>>are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>>Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>


At aadt we refer to him as the "Idiot"

> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.



Thus your most recent post.

>
> I do not come to NG's to stalk anyone and if it seems I am stalking
> you it is because you are basically one of the biggest BS'ers out
> there and post a lot of tripe too leaving yourself wide open when you
> post things that are not correct.



Well Idiot, you have described yourself and your actions.


>Some people (not trolls like your
> self) come to NG's for info


Hopefully those looking for info will not look to most of the BS you post.

>while you come for ego. Maybe if you
> controled your ego and posted less BS you would find that less of what
> you posted would be challanged.


That is what folks at numerous groups and forums have been trying to get you
to do, STFU
>
> BTW, if I really wanted to stalk you, it would take far more time than
> I care to spent in NG's because you seem to post a lot of tripe and I
> would not waste my time trying to read and respond to it all.


Hell, why don't YOU respond to the wrong and at time's dangerous stuff you
have posted in various groups over the past year or so?

Let me adjust that sig again for ya.

> -----------------
> TheWrongAnswerMan.com




Roy 06-14-2007 07:27 AM

Re: Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:0582739nt06pa72uggn2henvf8gthi8ppv@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>>are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>>Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>


At aadt we refer to him as the "Idiot"

> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.



Thus your most recent post.

>
> I do not come to NG's to stalk anyone and if it seems I am stalking
> you it is because you are basically one of the biggest BS'ers out
> there and post a lot of tripe too leaving yourself wide open when you
> post things that are not correct.



Well Idiot, you have described yourself and your actions.


>Some people (not trolls like your
> self) come to NG's for info


Hopefully those looking for info will not look to most of the BS you post.

>while you come for ego. Maybe if you
> controled your ego and posted less BS you would find that less of what
> you posted would be challanged.


That is what folks at numerous groups and forums have been trying to get you
to do, STFU
>
> BTW, if I really wanted to stalk you, it would take far more time than
> I care to spent in NG's because you seem to post a lot of tripe and I
> would not waste my time trying to read and respond to it all.


Hell, why don't YOU respond to the wrong and at time's dangerous stuff you
have posted in various groups over the past year or so?

Let me adjust that sig again for ya.

> -----------------
> TheWrongAnswerMan.com




Earle Horton 06-14-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 
What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook
and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service
manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world
experience.

We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens,
especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar.
The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained
properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
> bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous

heater,
> but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
> causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
> piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides

quicker
> heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
> temperature.
>
> I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
> clutch.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
> >
> > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> > as
> > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
> >
> > Saludos cordiales,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> >> A/C clutch?
> >>
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
> >>
> >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
> >>
> >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
> >>
> >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> >> until the coolant is hot.
> >>
> >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
> >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> >> heat the cabin immediately?
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >

>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Earle Horton 06-14-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 
What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook
and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service
manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world
experience.

We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens,
especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar.
The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained
properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
> bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous

heater,
> but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
> causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
> piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides

quicker
> heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
> temperature.
>
> I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
> clutch.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
> >
> > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> > as
> > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
> >
> > Saludos cordiales,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> >> A/C clutch?
> >>
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
> >>
> >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
> >>
> >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
> >>
> >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> >> until the coolant is hot.
> >>
> >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
> >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> >> heat the cabin immediately?
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >

>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Earle Horton 06-14-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 
What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook
and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service
manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world
experience.

We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens,
especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar.
The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained
properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
> bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous

heater,
> but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
> causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
> piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides

quicker
> heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
> temperature.
>
> I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
> clutch.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
> >
> > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> > as
> > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
> >
> > Saludos cordiales,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> >> A/C clutch?
> >>
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
> >>
> >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
> >>
> >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
> >>
> >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> >> until the coolant is hot.
> >>
> >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
> >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> >> heat the cabin immediately?
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >

>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Earle Horton 06-14-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
 
What's even more interesting is why the OP is so interested in every nook
and cranny of his Jeep's anatomy. I recommend putting the factory service
manual on the shelf for a while and driving it to get some real world
experience.

We used to use fuel fired cab heaters in the old air cooled Volkswagens,
especially the vans. I believe that tractor trailers use something similar.
The main problem is that they are dangerous and finicky if not maintained
properly. That usually consists of cleaning and adjusting a spark gap.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:hIadnf4twOEcHO3bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Earle, try clicking on the image thumbnails of the OP's link, it should
> bring the images up to readable size. I've never heard of a viscous

heater,
> but the page does describe it. Kind of a neat idea, it creates heat by
> causing friction in silicone fluid inside the V.H. pump. The coolant is
> piped through the pump and then into the heater core, which provides

quicker
> heat to the cabin than would be from getting the engine to operating
> temperature.
>
> I would guess the viscous heater clutch is similar to an A/C compressor
> clutch.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4670033d$0$16279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
> >
> > Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing
> > as
> > "instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
> >
> > Saludos cordiales,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> >> A/C clutch?
> >>
> >> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
> >>
> >> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
> >>
> >> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> >> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> >> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
> >>
> >> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> >> until the coolant is hot.
> >>
> >> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater knob is set to high, the
> >> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> >> heat the cabin immediately?
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >

>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Mike Romain 06-14-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>> are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>
>
> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.


Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to
realize it or even to read the thread.

Enough said....

Mike

Mike Romain 06-14-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>> are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>
>
> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.


Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to
realize it or even to read the thread.

Enough said....

Mike

Mike Romain 06-14-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch, Now SnoMan the stalker.
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:33:58 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and
>> are too stunned to realize it.
>>
>> Stalking me only proves you are a total idiot!

>
>
> As usual, the "troll" is insecure and attacks what he does not
> understand in a attempt to make him feel better about his own lack of
> knowledge and understanding.


Once again you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
because you are too busy stalking my posts and are too stunned to
realize it or even to read the thread.

Enough said....

Mike


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