Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
06-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
A/C clutch?
Where exactly is the viscous heater?
Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
until the coolant is hot.
Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
heat the cabin immediately?
A/C clutch?
Where exactly is the viscous heater?
Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
until the coolant is hot.
Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
heat the cabin immediately?
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
stilllearning wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 13, 10:51 am, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
>> A/C clutch?
>>
>> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>>
>> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>>
>> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
>> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
>> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>>
>> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
>> until the coolant is hot.
>>
>> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
>> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
>> heat the cabin immediately?
>
> Jeep WJ 2004, I6, 4WD.
>
OK.......
I'll bite......
The 'viscous' part of the fan is normally the part that causes the
'radiator' fan to freewheel when the engine is cold and to stiffen up
almost solid when the engine heats up so it sucks cold air to cool down
the radiator.
This is a 'gas saving' device apparently saving the gas needed to spin
the fan when the engine is not running hot. The fan does take several
HP to spin up under load.
Your 'heater' gets it's fluid from the waterpump bypassing the
thermostat so the inside heater core sees warm fluid before the radiator
sees warm fluid.
If you want instant heat, you need to add a circulating block heater
that uses a 'lot' of 120 volt power via an extension cord plugged into
your house to preheat your engine so it doesn't freeze solid and is
easier to start in sub zero weather. 2-3 hours at -20C is usually good
enough for instant heat.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-13-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: Viscous cabin heater and it's clutch
This post is incoherent to the point of surrealism.
Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing as
"instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
>
--
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Unless you use a 120 volt overnight block heater, there is no such thing as
"instant" heat, and there is no "viscous heater".
Saludos cordiales,
Earle
"stilllearning" <shahswim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181746281.704135.6060@q19g2000prn.googlegrou ps.com...
> Where exactly is the viscous heater clutch located? Is it part of the
> A/C clutch?
>
> Where exactly is the viscous heater?
>
> Trying to understand passenger cabin heating:
>
> Normally the coolant heats the cabin, but that happens only after the
> coolant heats up (maybe a few minutes after a engine start) and the
> thermostat opens up to send fluid to the radiator.
>
> The viscous heater heats the cabin immediately after engine start and
> until the coolant is hot.
>
> Why then, in cold weather, if the heater **** is set to high, the
> cabin is heated only after a few minutes? Shouldn't the viscous heater
> heat the cabin immediately?
>
--
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