Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
08-19-2007, 09:25 AM
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Re: Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
wrote:
>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
known as syncomesh fluid)
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
known as syncomesh fluid)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
08-19-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
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See the Geezer Jeep at
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08-19-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
08-19-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
08-19-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>> Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
08-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
SnoMan proclaimed:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
08-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
SnoMan proclaimed:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
08-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
SnoMan proclaimed:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
08-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
SnoMan proclaimed:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since this is my
>>Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>
>
> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
> known as syncomesh fluid)
At least two of the transfer cases have explicit clutches. All three of
them note the number one cause of noise is the wrong fluid, and as
someone else pointed out the cure for the wrong fluid is to drain and
flush--with a teardown only being recommended if that doesn't cure it.
I would expect anyone hiring themselves out as a mechanic to check
service bulletins in addition to a factory, not aftermarket service
manual. Or just notice the noise on a test drive and go hit the
service bulletins then--we all make mistakes. The owner didn't make the
mistake, the mechanic did and asking him to deal with it does not seem
overly harsh--unless the owner is willing to pay for the cost of repairs
if actually needed. If it wasn't driven too far, my guess would be not.
08-19-2007, 12:57 PM
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Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
? Dunno what book you are looking at, but my [95] FSM shows two of them
with explicit clutches shown in the teardown and overview. Are the
2000 entirely different transfer cases?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
> full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since
>>> this is my Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>>
>>
>> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
>> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
>> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
>> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
>> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
>> known as syncomesh fluid)
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
>
with explicit clutches shown in the teardown and overview. Are the
2000 entirely different transfer cases?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> There are NO clutches inside the Jeep's transfer case, whether it be a
> full-time, part-time, or part-time/full-time. ANY ATF is perfectly fine.
>
> SnoMan wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:49:04 -0400, "James" <no one@bellsouth.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be easy to blame him, but in my opinion, unfair. Since
>>> this is my Jeep, I am the only one to make the call on this one.
>>
>>
>> Consider this though, you pay a mech to kinda do it right just like
>> you pay a doctor to do their job right too. That aside, ATF would not
>> have killed Tcase but rather it could have made clutches in it chatter
>> some but it would not have been terminal. The specail fluid is simular
>> the the purple fluid that GM uses in their automatic Tcases. (also
>> known as syncomesh fluid)
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
>