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James 08-16-2007 07:11 PM

Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 

This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.

I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
acceptable.

The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
transfer case and switch it out.

This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
is urgent to me.

My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
Dextron III).

Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?

I will appreciate any thoughts on this.

James



Herb Leong 08-16-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
#
#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
#
#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
#acceptable.
Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
Yellow? Smells like vinyl?

Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.

05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.

#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
#transfer case and switch it out.
Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.

The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
it.

#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
#is urgent to me.
Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
red in there.

#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
#Dextron III).

#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?

Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
in the NV 247.

/herb

Herb Leong 08-16-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
#
#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
#
#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
#acceptable.
Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
Yellow? Smells like vinyl?

Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.

05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.

#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
#transfer case and switch it out.
Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.

The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
it.

#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
#is urgent to me.
Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
red in there.

#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
#Dextron III).

#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?

Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
in the NV 247.

/herb

Herb Leong 08-16-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
#
#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
#
#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
#acceptable.
Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
Yellow? Smells like vinyl?

Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.

05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.

#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
#transfer case and switch it out.
Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.

The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
it.

#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
#is urgent to me.
Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
red in there.

#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
#Dextron III).

#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?

Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
in the NV 247.

/herb

Herb Leong 08-16-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
#
#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
#
#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
#acceptable.
Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
Yellow? Smells like vinyl?

Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.

05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.

#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
#transfer case and switch it out.
Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.

The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
it.

#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
#is urgent to me.
Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
red in there.

#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
#Dextron III).

#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?

Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
in the NV 247.

/herb

SnoMan 08-16-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:41:54 -0500, herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong)
wrote:

>In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>#
>#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
>#
>#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
>#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
>#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
>#acceptable.
>Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
>Yellow? Smells like vinyl?
>
>Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
>transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
>recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
>from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.
>
>05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.
>
>#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
>#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
>#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
>#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
>#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
>#transfer case and switch it out.
>Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.
>
>The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
>it.
>
>#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
>#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
>#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
>#is urgent to me.
>Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
>to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
>it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
>red in there.
>
>#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
>#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
>#Dextron III).
>
>#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
>#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?
>
>Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
>and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
>in the NV 247.
>
>/herb



Worst case senerio, you could remove front drive shaft and lock Tcase
and drive it home that way if it runs quiet that way and get it
repaired at home later on.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 08-16-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:41:54 -0500, herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong)
wrote:

>In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>#
>#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
>#
>#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
>#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
>#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
>#acceptable.
>Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
>Yellow? Smells like vinyl?
>
>Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
>transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
>recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
>from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.
>
>05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.
>
>#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
>#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
>#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
>#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
>#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
>#transfer case and switch it out.
>Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.
>
>The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
>it.
>
>#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
>#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
>#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
>#is urgent to me.
>Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
>to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
>it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
>red in there.
>
>#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
>#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
>#Dextron III).
>
>#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
>#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?
>
>Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
>and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
>in the NV 247.
>
>/herb



Worst case senerio, you could remove front drive shaft and lock Tcase
and drive it home that way if it runs quiet that way and get it
repaired at home later on.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 08-16-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:41:54 -0500, herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong)
wrote:

>In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>#
>#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
>#
>#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
>#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
>#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
>#acceptable.
>Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
>Yellow? Smells like vinyl?
>
>Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
>transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
>recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
>from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.
>
>05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.
>
>#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
>#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
>#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
>#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
>#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
>#transfer case and switch it out.
>Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.
>
>The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
>it.
>
>#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
>#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
>#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
>#is urgent to me.
>Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
>to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
>it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
>red in there.
>
>#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
>#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
>#Dextron III).
>
>#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
>#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?
>
>Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
>and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
>in the NV 247.
>
>/herb



Worst case senerio, you could remove front drive shaft and lock Tcase
and drive it home that way if it runs quiet that way and get it
repaired at home later on.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 08-16-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:41:54 -0500, herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong)
wrote:

>In article <TQ4xi.2887$Lu.2853@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>James <no one@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>#
>#This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
>#
>#I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
>#fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
>#was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
>#acceptable.
>Was the fluid totaly replaced? What color was the goop that came out?
>Yellow? Smells like vinyl?
>
>Your manual is wrong. You need special (as in special education special)
>transfer case fluid only available from Mopar. P/N 05016796AAN. The
>recomended change interval is 22,550 miles. All NV 247 transfer cases came
>from the factory with 05016796AA starting on 4/9/99.
>
>05016796AA is a light pee-yellow color and it smells like vinyl.
>
>#The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
>#was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
>#mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
>#from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
>#chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
>#transfer case and switch it out.
>Yeah, it's possible that is what happened when you let your fluid run low.
>
>The fact is that he put the wrong goo in and now it is broken. Make him fix
>it.
>
>#This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
>#But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
>#have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
>#is urgent to me.
>Find a dealership and get the right fluid. Put it in and dive some figure-8s
>to push the ATF out of the gerotor and any other nooks and crannies. Drain
>it and refill with more 05016796AA. Lather-rinse-repeat until you see no
>red in there.
>
>#My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
>#case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
>#Dextron III).
>
>#Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
>#put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?
>
>Your son is wrong, but on the right track. 05016796AA is the stuff you need
>and it's only available from a dealer (from what I've seen). It is only used
>in the NV 247.
>
>/herb



Worst case senerio, you could remove front drive shaft and lock Tcase
and drive it home that way if it runs quiet that way and get it
repaired at home later on.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Lon 08-17-2007 11:56 PM

Re: Transfer Case question / 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
 
James proclaimed:
> This car has the Quadra Drive. It has 145,000 miles on it.
>
> I had the oil changed in this car today. The mechanic checked all of the
> fluids, and found them all ok, except for the transfer case, which he said
> was very low. He filled it up with Dextron III. My manual says this is
> acceptable.
>
> The car immediately started making extreme noises as I drove it off. It
> was clear that it had a major drive train problem. I drove it back to the
> mechanic, who inspected it closely. He is certain the problem is coming
> from the transfer case. He believes that the clutches are slipping, or the
> chain is skipping. He says that the best remedy is to find a replacement
> transfer case and switch it out.
>
> This is a new mechanic to me, as I am on vacation at our vacation house.
> But, I fully believe that the mechanic is honest and capable. But, I
> have to drive this car 500 miles on Monday , and tomorrow is Friday, so this
> is urgent to me.
>
> My son says that in spite of what the car manual says, that the transfer
> case should be filled with ATF+3 or ATF+4 specified for Chrysler (not
> Dextron III).
>
> Can you guys give me some input on this ? If I drain the Dextron III and
> put in ATF+3, how likely would this cure the problem ?
>
> I will appreciate any thoughts on this.
>


It was driving until the mechanic added the fluid.
It might have been low until he did that, but you did not mention any
noise prior to him touching the vehicle.
He may be honest, but he sure has no clue what he is doing.


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