"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:U2Qfg.1350$sP1.447@fed1read07...
> My reading for comprehension is just fine. I now understand
> what you meant to say but it wasn't exactly written in a way
> that could not be misinterpreted.
====================
Sure it was. If you read for comprehension from the poster I
replied to. It was all about HIS lack of action when faced with
so-called vandals on HIS farm. Like I said, NO FARMER would be
such a ----- to put up with these actions, therefore, like I
said, I called him a liar, and not a real farmer.



>
> rick wrote:
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50@fed1read07...
>>
>>>I'm no farmer but even if I was, I'd be VERY pissed if
>>>offroaders were screwing up my plowed fields that I use to
>>>earn my living with. But as an active offroader, I wheel with
>>>and know no one that would do such a thing. Although ANY
>>>sport has its jerks, offroaders today are very respectful of
>>>private property and other areas that are off-limits to
>>>offroading. "Tread Lightly" is taken very seriously by most
>>>offroaders. Those that don't are like jerks anywhere... they
>>>do what they please without regards to others.
>>>
>>>And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----"
>>>because he got pissed over offroaders who screwed up his
>>>cultivated fields.
>>
>> ===================================
>> Can't read for comprehension, eh? Try again, i said just the
>> opposite. I said "..no farmer I know would be such a -----
>> about people driving through their bean fields.." That
>> comment was directed at the poster that claimed he did nothing
>> but 'ask' people to leave his fields. The same people
>> numerous times.
>>
>>
>> I'd bet
>>
>>>big money if someone came onto any of your property that was
>>>cultivated and screwed it up that you'd scream bloody murder.
>>
>> ==========================
>> Exactly what I was saying. Do try to keep up...
>>
>>
>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>>>>>wheeling." I run a
>>>>>small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>>>>>my fields are
>>>>>just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>>>>>around in my field
>>>>>cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>>>>>ride around in
>>>>>unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>>>>>leave only to
>>>>>catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>>>>>(very small)
>>>>>percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>>>>>the category as
>>>>>a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>>>>>private property, I
>>>>>can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>==========================
>>>>Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>>>>it a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be
>>>>such a ----- about people driving through their bean
>>>>fields.(I also don't know any farmers that spcifically say
>>>>soybean field instead of just bean field)
>>>>Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>>>>crops around here, you're going to pay for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:U2Qfg.1350$sP1.447@fed1read07...
> My reading for comprehension is just fine. I now understand
> what you meant to say but it wasn't exactly written in a way
> that could not be misinterpreted.
====================
Sure it was. If you read for comprehension from the poster I
replied to. It was all about HIS lack of action when faced with
so-called vandals on HIS farm. Like I said, NO FARMER would be
such a ----- to put up with these actions, therefore, like I
said, I called him a liar, and not a real farmer.



>
> rick wrote:
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50@fed1read07...
>>
>>>I'm no farmer but even if I was, I'd be VERY pissed if
>>>offroaders were screwing up my plowed fields that I use to
>>>earn my living with. But as an active offroader, I wheel with
>>>and know no one that would do such a thing. Although ANY
>>>sport has its jerks, offroaders today are very respectful of
>>>private property and other areas that are off-limits to
>>>offroading. "Tread Lightly" is taken very seriously by most
>>>offroaders. Those that don't are like jerks anywhere... they
>>>do what they please without regards to others.
>>>
>>>And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----"
>>>because he got pissed over offroaders who screwed up his
>>>cultivated fields.
>>
>> ===================================
>> Can't read for comprehension, eh? Try again, i said just the
>> opposite. I said "..no farmer I know would be such a -----
>> about people driving through their bean fields.." That
>> comment was directed at the poster that claimed he did nothing
>> but 'ask' people to leave his fields. The same people
>> numerous times.
>>
>>
>> I'd bet
>>
>>>big money if someone came onto any of your property that was
>>>cultivated and screwed it up that you'd scream bloody murder.
>>
>> ==========================
>> Exactly what I was saying. Do try to keep up...
>>
>>
>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>>>>>wheeling." I run a
>>>>>small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>>>>>my fields are
>>>>>just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>>>>>around in my field
>>>>>cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>>>>>ride around in
>>>>>unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>>>>>leave only to
>>>>>catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>>>>>(very small)
>>>>>percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>>>>>the category as
>>>>>a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>>>>>private property, I
>>>>>can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>==========================
>>>>Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>>>>it a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be
>>>>such a ----- about people driving through their bean
>>>>fields.(I also don't know any farmers that spcifically say
>>>>soybean field instead of just bean field)
>>>>Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>>>>crops around here, you're going to pay for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:44805576$1@kcnews01...
>
> "rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
> news:BAGfg.7737$921.7295@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>> >wheeling." I run a
>> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>> > my
>> > fields are
>> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>> > around
>> > in my field
>> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>> > ride
>> > around in
>> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>> > leave only to
>> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>> > (very small)
>> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>> > the
>> > category as
>> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>> > private
>> > property, I
>> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> ==========================
>> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>> it
>> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
>> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
>> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field
>> instead
>> of just bean field)
>
> Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers
> who refer to
> them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I
> had said they
> rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my
> "bean" field,
> I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them
> in the act. I
> have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about
> the guys
> riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's
> when we saw the
> tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even
> months
> before we saw it.
> ================================
Changing the story now, huh? Before it was you were asking them
to leave like every week or something.




>> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>> crops
>> around here, you're going to pay for them.
>
> Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7
> surveillance on
> your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even
> check for
> weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an
> older,
> decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front
> of this
> house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the
> house for
> later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded
> by an electric
> fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the
> fence.
> backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck.
> I stopped
> him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he
> thought the wood
> was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but
> inside a
> fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the
> sheriff? I
> already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had
> not have
> just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and
> there is
> nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have
> someone (I
> assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my
> pastures. I
> can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to
> retrieve a
> dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.
===========================
Quit making excuses, -----. File charges.


>
> It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and
> prosecute
> trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.
===========================
Make up your mind, either you never catch them, or you catch them
all the time. Which is it?



>
> Ed
>
>

 

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:44805576$1@kcnews01...
>
> "rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
> news:BAGfg.7737$921.7295@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>> >wheeling." I run a
>> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>> > my
>> > fields are
>> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>> > around
>> > in my field
>> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>> > ride
>> > around in
>> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>> > leave only to
>> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>> > (very small)
>> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>> > the
>> > category as
>> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>> > private
>> > property, I
>> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> ==========================
>> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>> it
>> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
>> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
>> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field
>> instead
>> of just bean field)
>
> Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers
> who refer to
> them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I
> had said they
> rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my
> "bean" field,
> I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them
> in the act. I
> have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about
> the guys
> riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's
> when we saw the
> tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even
> months
> before we saw it.
> ================================
Changing the story now, huh? Before it was you were asking them
to leave like every week or something.




>> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>> crops
>> around here, you're going to pay for them.
>
> Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7
> surveillance on
> your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even
> check for
> weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an
> older,
> decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front
> of this
> house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the
> house for
> later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded
> by an electric
> fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the
> fence.
> backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck.
> I stopped
> him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he
> thought the wood
> was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but
> inside a
> fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the
> sheriff? I
> already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had
> not have
> just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and
> there is
> nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have
> someone (I
> assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my
> pastures. I
> can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to
> retrieve a
> dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.
===========================
Quit making excuses, -----. File charges.


>
> It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and
> prosecute
> trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.
===========================
Make up your mind, either you never catch them, or you catch them
all the time. Which is it?



>
> Ed
>
>

 

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:44805576$1@kcnews01...
>
> "rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
> news:BAGfg.7737$921.7295@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>> >wheeling." I run a
>> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>> > my
>> > fields are
>> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>> > around
>> > in my field
>> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>> > ride
>> > around in
>> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>> > leave only to
>> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>> > (very small)
>> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>> > the
>> > category as
>> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>> > private
>> > property, I
>> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> ==========================
>> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>> it
>> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
>> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
>> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field
>> instead
>> of just bean field)
>
> Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers
> who refer to
> them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I
> had said they
> rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my
> "bean" field,
> I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them
> in the act. I
> have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about
> the guys
> riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's
> when we saw the
> tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even
> months
> before we saw it.
> ================================
Changing the story now, huh? Before it was you were asking them
to leave like every week or something.




>> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>> crops
>> around here, you're going to pay for them.
>
> Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7
> surveillance on
> your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even
> check for
> weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an
> older,
> decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front
> of this
> house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the
> house for
> later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded
> by an electric
> fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the
> fence.
> backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck.
> I stopped
> him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he
> thought the wood
> was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but
> inside a
> fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the
> sheriff? I
> already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had
> not have
> just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and
> there is
> nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have
> someone (I
> assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my
> pastures. I
> can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to
> retrieve a
> dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.
===========================
Quit making excuses, -----. File charges.


>
> It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and
> prosecute
> trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.
===========================
Make up your mind, either you never catch them, or you catch them
all the time. Which is it?



>
> Ed
>
>

 

<groups trimmed>

How interesting that the OP has never came back to dispute
anything. That indicates the typical write-only mentality
of your basic nut-job.

--
DougW

 

<groups trimmed>

How interesting that the OP has never came back to dispute
anything. That indicates the typical write-only mentality
of your basic nut-job.

--
DougW

 

<groups trimmed>

How interesting that the OP has never came back to dispute
anything. That indicates the typical write-only mentality
of your basic nut-job.

--
DougW

 

God, who let the cross-posting troll in, and why are you people feeding him?

C. E., you are not going to get any satisfaction here. Which state do you
live in? In Colorado you post "No Trespassing" signs at legally specified
intervals around your property, keep your fences in good repair, and then
you have legal grounds to prosecute anyone who enters, in civil court, to
recover damages. Pick someone whose name appears on a bit of trash, dumped
on your property, and make him pay for the entire trash heap removal, at
$50.00 an hour. If he won't pay, take him to civil court.

The next time you find a truck buried up to the axles, take photos of it,
including the license plate and any other identifying marks. Find out from
your sheriff the legal way to impound a vehicle abandoned on your property,
and make the owner pay to recover it from you. If you are threatened with
violence, document everything, and take them to court later. Ever wanted to
go on TV? Maybe "Texas Justice" or "People's Court" will take this one.

The standards for proving criminal intent are rigorous, as they should be.
But if you can prove civil damages, then you might get satisfaction. At
least it will keep you busy. Maybe a newspaper interview or two, will give
you some satisfaction.

Earle

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:44805754$1@kcnews01...
>
> "Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@nospamverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns97D5D7931C4AFmalmros@130.81.64.196...
> > Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50
> > @fed1read07:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----" because he got
> > > pissed over offroaders who screwed up his cultivated fields.
> >
> > He didn't call him a ----- because he got pissed off. He called him a
> > ----- because getting pissed off (and posting to Usenet, I guess) was
all
> > that he apparently did. If such a thing happened to my neighbor's
fields,
> > he'd call the cops, and they'd damn well solve the problem. Like
others,
> I
> > can't conceive of a rural community where this problem would not be
> > adequately dealt with if brought to the attention of law enforcement.
> > Perhaps OP is an absentee gentleman hobby-farmer?
>
> Well I am probably in the hobby farmer class these days, althoguh I farms
> 50% more land than my Father (a life long farmer) ever did. I only have
> about 300 acres of crop land and another 75 acres of pasture and a few
> hundred acres of woodland of varying quality.
>
> I don't know where you live that farm land is under survellance 24/7. It
> certainly is not in my area. I have fields that are down paths and
> surrounded by woodlands. I might check them one every week or two during
the
> growing seasons, and only once or twice over the course of the winter. So
> the chances of actually catching the person in the act is remote. And even
> when I have cuaght peopel, the law does nothing. I've called the sheriff
> multiple times for different offences and nothing has ever been done. The
> best I ever got was a deputy coming out and agreeing that the trash was
> real. I also once had a highway patrol officer check on the owner of a
truck
> buried up to the axles in my field (winter time). Nothing happened then
> either. I suppose I could have pressed charges for tresspassing, but what
> was I going to get? Nothing.
>
> Ed
>
>

 

God, who let the cross-posting troll in, and why are you people feeding him?

C. E., you are not going to get any satisfaction here. Which state do you
live in? In Colorado you post "No Trespassing" signs at legally specified
intervals around your property, keep your fences in good repair, and then
you have legal grounds to prosecute anyone who enters, in civil court, to
recover damages. Pick someone whose name appears on a bit of trash, dumped
on your property, and make him pay for the entire trash heap removal, at
$50.00 an hour. If he won't pay, take him to civil court.

The next time you find a truck buried up to the axles, take photos of it,
including the license plate and any other identifying marks. Find out from
your sheriff the legal way to impound a vehicle abandoned on your property,
and make the owner pay to recover it from you. If you are threatened with
violence, document everything, and take them to court later. Ever wanted to
go on TV? Maybe "Texas Justice" or "People's Court" will take this one.

The standards for proving criminal intent are rigorous, as they should be.
But if you can prove civil damages, then you might get satisfaction. At
least it will keep you busy. Maybe a newspaper interview or two, will give
you some satisfaction.

Earle

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:44805754$1@kcnews01...
>
> "Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@nospamverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns97D5D7931C4AFmalmros@130.81.64.196...
> > Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50
> > @fed1read07:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----" because he got
> > > pissed over offroaders who screwed up his cultivated fields.
> >
> > He didn't call him a ----- because he got pissed off. He called him a
> > ----- because getting pissed off (and posting to Usenet, I guess) was
all
> > that he apparently did. If such a thing happened to my neighbor's
fields,
> > he'd call the cops, and they'd damn well solve the problem. Like
others,
> I
> > can't conceive of a rural community where this problem would not be
> > adequately dealt with if brought to the attention of law enforcement.
> > Perhaps OP is an absentee gentleman hobby-farmer?
>
> Well I am probably in the hobby farmer class these days, althoguh I farms
> 50% more land than my Father (a life long farmer) ever did. I only have
> about 300 acres of crop land and another 75 acres of pasture and a few
> hundred acres of woodland of varying quality.
>
> I don't know where you live that farm land is under survellance 24/7. It
> certainly is not in my area. I have fields that are down paths and
> surrounded by woodlands. I might check them one every week or two during
the
> growing seasons, and only once or twice over the course of the winter. So
> the chances of actually catching the person in the act is remote. And even
> when I have cuaght peopel, the law does nothing. I've called the sheriff
> multiple times for different offences and nothing has ever been done. The
> best I ever got was a deputy coming out and agreeing that the trash was
> real. I also once had a highway patrol officer check on the owner of a
truck
> buried up to the axles in my field (winter time). Nothing happened then
> either. I suppose I could have pressed charges for tresspassing, but what
> was I going to get? Nothing.
>
> Ed
>
>