Trail(er) trash
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Re: Trail(er) trash
It is called Pareto's Principal
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
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> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash
It is called Pareto's Principal
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
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> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash
It is called Pareto's Principal
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Coasty
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
> You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>
>> There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>> people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>
>> Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>> narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>
>> I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>> Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>
>> Coasty
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>> all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>> Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>> view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>> it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>
>>> People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>> sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>> Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>> to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>> It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>
>>> It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>> environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>> protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>> Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>> impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>> the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>> to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>
>>> In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>> more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>> places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>> trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>
>>> R. Lander
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash
Other than the percentages being those of the pareto, looks more like
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Posts: n/a
Re: Trail(er) trash
Other than the percentages being those of the pareto, looks more like
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash
Other than the percentages being those of the pareto, looks more like
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Sturgeons Law.
Coasty proclaimed:
> It is called Pareto's Principal
> Coasty
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:4a4ba$448046bf$48311525$5993@FUSE.NET...
>
>>You think that as many as 20% are the troublemakers?
>>
>>
>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>news:T46dnbTup8jCiB3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>>I love hypocritical egregious extremist people, they often have a narrow
>>>view. This is evident in lumping one particular group of people into a
>>>single category and all of them being offenders and not caring what ever
>>>the cause may be also, always touting the sky is falling.
>>>
>>>There is the 80/20 rule which has been proven and measured. 80% of the
>>>people are good and do the right thing 20% of the people are dirt bags.
>>>
>>>Maybe you should target the 20% and include yourself in the 20% for your
>>>narrow minded lumping of all people in a particular group.
>>>
>>>I always laugh at the extremist what ever the cause it is better than the
>>>Last Comic show TV and it is free entertainment.
>>>
>>>Coasty
>>>Coasty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"R. Lander" <r_lander60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1149175697.422954.235760@f6g2000cwb.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>>The "respect" for nature shown by offroad enthusiasts is documented by
>>>>all the cans, bottles and wrappers they toss on scenic trails. The
>>>>Rubicon near Lake Tahoe shows how these anthropocentric mouth-breathers
>>>>view the land. They can't be bothered carrying a trash bag and packing
>>>>it out. No room in the Jeep or some other excuse.
>>>>
>>>>People with a conquer-nature mentality have little respect for its
>>>>sanctity. The show stealer is their fancy machinery, not the land.
>>>>Nature is just another place to make noise and whoop it up. It's hard
>>>>to prove, but the number of offroad litterers is probably at least 25%.
>>>>It goes beyond a few rotten apples making the rest look bad.
>>>>
>>>>It's very simple: people who bash environmentalism don't respect the
>>>>environment that much. They talk of "extremism" but effective
>>>>protection will always seem extreme to those who want land UNprotected.
>>>>Environmental problems are people problems and more people create more
>>>>impact. Population can't continue without stealing more land. That's
>>>>the crux of all these conflicts. It's not about shadowy entities trying
>>>>to block your rights, it's more people fighting over less acreage.
>>>>
>>>>In the lower 48 states, there's no real frontier left. We don't need
>>>>more machines, noise and trail(er) trash invading the last wild, quiet
>>>>places. Be happy with all the trails you've got. If you find those
>>>>trails overcrowded, blame human overbreeding, not environmentalism.
>>>>
>>>>R. Lander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash and Nature *****
Ain't THAT the truth!
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
Guest
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Re: Trail(er) trash and Nature *****
Ain't THAT the truth!
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash and Nature *****
Ain't THAT the truth!
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
Jeff DeWitt
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> The "good" candidates all refuse to run any more IMHO. Who in their
> right mind wants to be attacked and have all their opinions, viewss and
> thoughts spun by the opposition who have nothing more than character
> assassination on their mind?
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>> Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>> Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I
>> can use that quote against. I just hope to God the Republicans come
>> up with someone good to run against him (or her).
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Mary Malmros wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:3sOfg.11919$Qg.8563@tornado.southeast.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes, that's one of the reasons I'm filing it away, should come in
>>>> useful around election time in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No need, son; George W. Bush has had his two terms and can't run for
>>> a third.
>
>
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Re: Trail(er) trash and Nature *****
I guess it depends how you define nutcase, although Al Gore certainly
seems to have been pushed over the edge by losing the 2000 election.
Garth Almgren wrote:
> Around 6/1/2006 9:56 PM, Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>>Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I can
>>use that quote against.
>
>
> Another?? Not a single Democrat candidate at the federal level comes to
> mind who could honestly be called a "nutcase."
>
> Now, some of the more localized candidates are borderline, but that's a
> whole 'nother ballpark. :)
>
>
>
>>I just hope to God the Republicans come up with
>>someone good to run against him (or her).
>
>
> Why should the Republicans have to come up with someone good?
> They've done *very* well with the exceedingly bad candidates of the last
> few elections...
More's the pity... Actually I don't think Bush (either one), was
exccedingly bad, but the Republicans should have been able to do a lot
better.
>
> My advice: Don't fix it if it ain't broken. :)
>
>
>
seems to have been pushed over the edge by losing the 2000 election.
Garth Almgren wrote:
> Around 6/1/2006 9:56 PM, Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Oh there will be plenty of need, 2008 is coming and no doubt the
>>Democrats will come up with another nutcase lefty to run, someone I can
>>use that quote against.
>
>
> Another?? Not a single Democrat candidate at the federal level comes to
> mind who could honestly be called a "nutcase."
>
> Now, some of the more localized candidates are borderline, but that's a
> whole 'nother ballpark. :)
>
>
>
>>I just hope to God the Republicans come up with
>>someone good to run against him (or her).
>
>
> Why should the Republicans have to come up with someone good?
> They've done *very* well with the exceedingly bad candidates of the last
> few elections...
More's the pity... Actually I don't think Bush (either one), was
exccedingly bad, but the Republicans should have been able to do a lot
better.
>
> My advice: Don't fix it if it ain't broken. :)
>
>
>