"rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
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>
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
> >wheeling." I run a
> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide my
> > fields are
> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise around
> > in my field
> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then ride
> > around in
> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
> > leave only to
> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
> > (very small)
> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike the
> > category as
> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously private
> > property, I
> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
> >
> > Ed
> ==========================
> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call it
> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field instead
> of just bean field)

Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers who refer to
them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I had said they
rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my "bean" field,
I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them in the act. I
have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about the guys
riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's when we saw the
tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even months
before we saw it.

> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage crops
> around here, you're going to pay for them.

Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7 surveillance on
your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even check for
weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an older,
decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front of this
house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the house for
later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded by an electric
fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the fence.
backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck. I stopped
him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he thought the wood
was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but inside a
fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the sheriff? I
already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had not have
just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and there is
nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have someone (I
assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my pastures. I
can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to retrieve a
dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.

It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and prosecute
trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.

Ed

 

"rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
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>
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
> >wheeling." I run a
> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide my
> > fields are
> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise around
> > in my field
> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then ride
> > around in
> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
> > leave only to
> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
> > (very small)
> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike the
> > category as
> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously private
> > property, I
> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
> >
> > Ed
> ==========================
> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call it
> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field instead
> of just bean field)

Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers who refer to
them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I had said they
rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my "bean" field,
I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them in the act. I
have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about the guys
riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's when we saw the
tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even months
before we saw it.

> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage crops
> around here, you're going to pay for them.

Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7 surveillance on
your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even check for
weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an older,
decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front of this
house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the house for
later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded by an electric
fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the fence.
backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck. I stopped
him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he thought the wood
was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but inside a
fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the sheriff? I
already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had not have
just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and there is
nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have someone (I
assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my pastures. I
can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to retrieve a
dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.

It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and prosecute
trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.

Ed

 

"rick" <stop@stop.net> wrote in message
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>
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
> >I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
> >wheeling." I run a
> > small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide my
> > fields are
> > just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise around
> > in my field
> > cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then ride
> > around in
> > unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
> > leave only to
> > catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
> > (very small)
> > percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike the
> > category as
> > a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously private
> > property, I
> > can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
> >
> > Ed
> ==========================
> Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call it
> a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be such a
> ----- about people driving through their bean fields.(I also
> don't know any farmers that spcifically say soybean field instead
> of just bean field)

Well you know one that says "soybeans" now. I also know farmers who refer to
them as "peas" - would you have found me more believable if I had said they
rode over my peas? And if I could catch them riding around my "bean" field,
I would make them pay. Unfortunately it is hard to catch them in the act. I
have lots of smaller isolated fields. I didn't even know about the guys
riding over my soybeans until they were harvested - that's when we saw the
tracks and the damage. The actual damage was done weeks or even months
before we saw it.

> Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage crops
> around here, you're going to pay for them.

Only if you catch them. Maybe where you live, you have 24/7 surveillance on
your crops, but I don't. Heck, I have fields that I won't even check for
weeks at a time. It is amazing what some people do. We have an older,
decaying house near my Mother's house. I cut up a tree in front of this
house and split it for firewood and piled it up in front of the house for
later use. The house is in the corner of a pasture surrounded by an electric
fence. One day I happened to ride by and saw a truck inside the fence.
backed up to the pile and a guy loading my wood into the truck. I stopped
him and asked him what the h%^& he was doing., He said he thought the wood
was free since it was just piled up there near the road (but inside a
fence). I chased him off. What would you suggest I do? Call the sheriff? I
already know that is worthless. Sue the guy? For what? If I had not have
just happened to see him, he would have gotten my firewood and there is
nothing I could have done about it. About twice a year I have someone (I
assume they are hunters) disconnect electric fences around my pastures. I
can understand they might need to do this if they are trying to retrieve a
dog, but they often don't bother to hook them back up.

It is great that where you live it is easy to catch and prosecute
trespassers. Unfortunately, I've had little success doing so.

Ed

 

"Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@nospamverizon.net> wrote in message
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> Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50
> @fed1read07:
>
> [snip]
> > And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----" because he got
> > pissed over offroaders who screwed up his cultivated fields.
>
> He didn't call him a ----- because he got pissed off. He called him a
> ----- because getting pissed off (and posting to Usenet, I guess) was all
> that he apparently did. If such a thing happened to my neighbor's fields,
> he'd call the cops, and they'd damn well solve the problem. Like others,
I
> can't conceive of a rural community where this problem would not be
> adequately dealt with if brought to the attention of law enforcement.
> Perhaps OP is an absentee gentleman hobby-farmer?

Well I am probably in the hobby farmer class these days, althoguh I farms
50% more land than my Father (a life long farmer) ever did. I only have
about 300 acres of crop land and another 75 acres of pasture and a few
hundred acres of woodland of varying quality.

I don't know where you live that farm land is under survellance 24/7. It
certainly is not in my area. I have fields that are down paths and
surrounded by woodlands. I might check them one every week or two during the
growing seasons, and only once or twice over the course of the winter. So
the chances of actually catching the person in the act is remote. And even
when I have cuaght peopel, the law does nothing. I've called the sheriff
multiple times for different offences and nothing has ever been done. The
best I ever got was a deputy coming out and agreeing that the trash was
real. I also once had a highway patrol officer check on the owner of a truck
buried up to the axles in my field (winter time). Nothing happened then
either. I suppose I could have pressed charges for tresspassing, but what
was I going to get? Nothing.

Ed

 

"Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@nospamverizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97D5D7931C4AFmalmros@130.81.64.196...
> Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50
> @fed1read07:
>
> [snip]
> > And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----" because he got
> > pissed over offroaders who screwed up his cultivated fields.
>
> He didn't call him a ----- because he got pissed off. He called him a
> ----- because getting pissed off (and posting to Usenet, I guess) was all
> that he apparently did. If such a thing happened to my neighbor's fields,
> he'd call the cops, and they'd damn well solve the problem. Like others,
I
> can't conceive of a rural community where this problem would not be
> adequately dealt with if brought to the attention of law enforcement.
> Perhaps OP is an absentee gentleman hobby-farmer?

Well I am probably in the hobby farmer class these days, althoguh I farms
50% more land than my Father (a life long farmer) ever did. I only have
about 300 acres of crop land and another 75 acres of pasture and a few
hundred acres of woodland of varying quality.

I don't know where you live that farm land is under survellance 24/7. It
certainly is not in my area. I have fields that are down paths and
surrounded by woodlands. I might check them one every week or two during the
growing seasons, and only once or twice over the course of the winter. So
the chances of actually catching the person in the act is remote. And even
when I have cuaght peopel, the law does nothing. I've called the sheriff
multiple times for different offences and nothing has ever been done. The
best I ever got was a deputy coming out and agreeing that the trash was
real. I also once had a highway patrol officer check on the owner of a truck
buried up to the axles in my field (winter time). Nothing happened then
either. I suppose I could have pressed charges for tresspassing, but what
was I going to get? Nothing.

Ed

 

"Mary Malmros" <malmrosnospam@nospamverizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97D5D7931C4AFmalmros@130.81.64.196...
> Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50
> @fed1read07:
>
> [snip]
> > And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----" because he got
> > pissed over offroaders who screwed up his cultivated fields.
>
> He didn't call him a ----- because he got pissed off. He called him a
> ----- because getting pissed off (and posting to Usenet, I guess) was all
> that he apparently did. If such a thing happened to my neighbor's fields,
> he'd call the cops, and they'd damn well solve the problem. Like others,
I
> can't conceive of a rural community where this problem would not be
> adequately dealt with if brought to the attention of law enforcement.
> Perhaps OP is an absentee gentleman hobby-farmer?

Well I am probably in the hobby farmer class these days, althoguh I farms
50% more land than my Father (a life long farmer) ever did. I only have
about 300 acres of crop land and another 75 acres of pasture and a few
hundred acres of woodland of varying quality.

I don't know where you live that farm land is under survellance 24/7. It
certainly is not in my area. I have fields that are down paths and
surrounded by woodlands. I might check them one every week or two during the
growing seasons, and only once or twice over the course of the winter. So
the chances of actually catching the person in the act is remote. And even
when I have cuaght peopel, the law does nothing. I've called the sheriff
multiple times for different offences and nothing has ever been done. The
best I ever got was a deputy coming out and agreeing that the trash was
real. I also once had a highway patrol officer check on the owner of a truck
buried up to the axles in my field (winter time). Nothing happened then
either. I suppose I could have pressed charges for tresspassing, but what
was I going to get? Nothing.

Ed

 

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
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> Tis why they made rocksalt & shotguns?

Oh yeah, shoot someone and see who goes to jail. Real smart. Or even worse,
get in a fire fight with someone who out guns you and end up dead.

Ed

 

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:_9OdncXOYo6C9uLZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Tis why they made rocksalt & shotguns?

Oh yeah, shoot someone and see who goes to jail. Real smart. Or even worse,
get in a fire fight with someone who out guns you and end up dead.

Ed

 

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:_9OdncXOYo6C9uLZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Tis why they made rocksalt & shotguns?

Oh yeah, shoot someone and see who goes to jail. Real smart. Or even worse,
get in a fire fight with someone who out guns you and end up dead.

Ed

 

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:U2Qfg.1350$sP1.447@fed1read07...
> My reading for comprehension is just fine. I now understand
> what you meant to say but it wasn't exactly written in a way
> that could not be misinterpreted.
====================
Sure it was. If you read for comprehension from the poster I
replied to. It was all about HIS lack of action when faced with
so-called vandals on HIS farm. Like I said, NO FARMER would be
such a ----- to put up with these actions, therefore, like I
said, I called him a liar, and not a real farmer.



>
> rick wrote:
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:%mHfg.1322$sP1.50@fed1read07...
>>
>>>I'm no farmer but even if I was, I'd be VERY pissed if
>>>offroaders were screwing up my plowed fields that I use to
>>>earn my living with. But as an active offroader, I wheel with
>>>and know no one that would do such a thing. Although ANY
>>>sport has its jerks, offroaders today are very respectful of
>>>private property and other areas that are off-limits to
>>>offroading. "Tread Lightly" is taken very seriously by most
>>>offroaders. Those that don't are like jerks anywhere... they
>>>do what they please without regards to others.
>>>
>>>And Rick, I can't believe you'd call a farmer a "-----"
>>>because he got pissed over offroaders who screwed up his
>>>cultivated fields.
>>
>> ===================================
>> Can't read for comprehension, eh? Try again, i said just the
>> opposite. I said "..no farmer I know would be such a -----
>> about people driving through their bean fields.." That
>> comment was directed at the poster that claimed he did nothing
>> but 'ask' people to leave his fields. The same people
>> numerous times.
>>
>>
>> I'd bet
>>
>>>big money if someone came onto any of your property that was
>>>cultivated and screwed it up that you'd scream bloody murder.
>>
>> ==========================
>> Exactly what I was saying. Do try to keep up...
>>
>>
>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:447f1d17@kcnews01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a lot of dislike of people who like to go "four
>>>>>wheeling." I run a
>>>>>small farm. Lots of the wannbe four wheeling masters decide
>>>>>my fields are
>>>>>just perfect for trying out their vehicles. They cruise
>>>>>around in my field
>>>>>cutting tracks and distributing trash. I've even had then
>>>>>ride around in
>>>>>unharvested soybean fields. I have stopped and asked them to
>>>>>leave only to
>>>>>catch them again the next week. Now maybe thius only a small
>>>>>(very small)
>>>>>percentage of four wwheelers, but they sure make me dislike
>>>>>the category as
>>>>>a whole. Given that they have no regard for obviously
>>>>>private property, I
>>>>>can only imagine how they treat "our" land.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>==========================
>>>>Excuse me while I don't believe you. In fact, I'll even call
>>>>it a lie. I don't 4-wheel, but no farmer I know would be
>>>>such a ----- about people driving through their bean
>>>>fields.(I also don't know any farmers that spcifically say
>>>>soybean field instead of just bean field)
>>>>Hell, even if you 'accidentally' run off a road and damage
>>>>crops around here, you're going to pay for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/