Towing with a Jeep
02-18-2004, 05:14 AM
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
On 17 Feb 2004 19:18:46 GMT, rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills)
wrote:
>> I flat tow with a long
>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>
>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
trailer out of the computations.
BTW, the owners manual in my Wrangler says the tow capacity is 2500
lbs, not 2000. Still not enough for what the OP wants to tow.
I, myself have a 5'x8' utility trailer on which I load 2 Harleys for a
gross trailer weight around 2200lbs. My Wrangler tows it ok(except
for the obvious lack of power because of the 4 cyl)and my wife's
Cherokee(with the 6 cyl)tows it like it's not even there.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>> I flat tow with a long
>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>
>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
trailer out of the computations.
BTW, the owners manual in my Wrangler says the tow capacity is 2500
lbs, not 2000. Still not enough for what the OP wants to tow.
I, myself have a 5'x8' utility trailer on which I load 2 Harleys for a
gross trailer weight around 2200lbs. My Wrangler tows it ok(except
for the obvious lack of power because of the 4 cyl)and my wife's
Cherokee(with the 6 cyl)tows it like it's not even there.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
02-18-2004, 05:14 AM
#82
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
On 17 Feb 2004 19:18:46 GMT, rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills)
wrote:
>> I flat tow with a long
>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>
>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
trailer out of the computations.
BTW, the owners manual in my Wrangler says the tow capacity is 2500
lbs, not 2000. Still not enough for what the OP wants to tow.
I, myself have a 5'x8' utility trailer on which I load 2 Harleys for a
gross trailer weight around 2200lbs. My Wrangler tows it ok(except
for the obvious lack of power because of the 4 cyl)and my wife's
Cherokee(with the 6 cyl)tows it like it's not even there.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>> I flat tow with a long
>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>
>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
trailer out of the computations.
BTW, the owners manual in my Wrangler says the tow capacity is 2500
lbs, not 2000. Still not enough for what the OP wants to tow.
I, myself have a 5'x8' utility trailer on which I load 2 Harleys for a
gross trailer weight around 2200lbs. My Wrangler tows it ok(except
for the obvious lack of power because of the 4 cyl)and my wife's
Cherokee(with the 6 cyl)tows it like it's not even there.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
02-18-2004, 10:02 AM
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
You might mention source and destination locations... someone here, with the
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
02-18-2004, 10:02 AM
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
You might mention source and destination locations... someone here, with the
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
02-18-2004, 10:02 AM
#85
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
You might mention source and destination locations... someone here, with the
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
proper equipment, may be interested in doing the job. If it was close
enough, I might for $425.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9492BD74BDFD3wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136...
> "Brian T." <brtomkin@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9491C263BD1B7wolfpackmp3@216.196.97.136:
>
> > I am looking for a bit of advice. I am considering towing another
> > vehicle (on a trailer with all four wheels off the ground) with my '93
> > Jeep Wrangler (6 cyl. 4.0 liter, manual transmission). The weight of
> > the vehicle I want to tow is about 3500 lbs. Is this possible? Would
> > it be safe? I need to tow it about 300 miles.
> >
> > I also might have access to a 2002 Grand Cherokee (6 cyl., auto
> > trans). Would this be better to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
> Well, I have definitely decided not to use the Wrangler! Someone
> mentioned rentals. I am now considering just paying $450 to have a
> rollback carry it. Much easier on me and less stressful. However,
> someone mentioned renting a truck... any more info on this?
>
> Brian
02-18-2004, 10:39 AM
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
>>> I flat tow with a long
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
02-18-2004, 10:39 AM
#87
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
>>> I flat tow with a long
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
02-18-2004, 10:39 AM
#88
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
>>> I flat tow with a long
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>bed half ton, it's fun.
>>
>>Fun, as in riding a white-knuckler at Magic Mountain? ;-)
>
>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>trailer out of the computations.
You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed load
are with a capital "P."
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
02-18-2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
In article <20040218103949.19644.00000886@mb-m22.aol.com>,
rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) writes:
>>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>>trailer out of the computations.
>
>You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
>descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
>point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed
>load
>are with a capital "P."
>
This is the exact reason why I got a trailer to tow my TJ.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) writes:
>>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>>trailer out of the computations.
>
>You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
>descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
>point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed
>load
>are with a capital "P."
>
This is the exact reason why I got a trailer to tow my TJ.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
02-18-2004, 02:15 PM
#90
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Re: Towing with a Jeep
In article <20040218103949.19644.00000886@mb-m22.aol.com>,
rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) writes:
>>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>>trailer out of the computations.
>
>You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
>descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
>point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed
>load
>are with a capital "P."
>
This is the exact reason why I got a trailer to tow my TJ.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) writes:
>>Nope, you missed it. He said "flat tow". You can knock the 1600 lb
>>trailer out of the computations.
>
>You can also knock out the trailer brakes. I've flat towed for years - long
>descents down a grade can easily heat up the tow rig's brakes to and past the
>point of fade, and even of flat ground panic stops with an unbraked towed
>load
>are with a capital "P."
>
This is the exact reason why I got a trailer to tow my TJ.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
