totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
07-23-2004, 09:04 PM
#41
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
LOL
I was asking as I know of many unhappy Ford campers, until they
bought the turbo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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MontanaJeeper wrote:
>
> absolutely, and its a strong puller as well. i know you dont care much for
> diesels, but according to http://dieselforum.com a properly running diesel has
> less emmissions than a comparable gasoline engine.
I was asking as I know of many unhappy Ford campers, until they
bought the turbo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
MontanaJeeper wrote:
>
> absolutely, and its a strong puller as well. i know you dont care much for
> diesels, but according to http://dieselforum.com a properly running diesel has
> less emmissions than a comparable gasoline engine.
07-23-2004, 11:17 PM
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. <
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
07-23-2004, 11:17 PM
#43
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. <
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
07-23-2004, 11:17 PM
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. <
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
07-23-2004, 11:17 PM
#45
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. <
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
Two weeks ago I traded my spotless 2001 WJ with less than 24k on the clock
so I could get an F350 to pull my YJ ona trailer. Even though I'd pulled the
NADA, Kelley and EDmunds trade values off the web and printed them the WJ
was shockingly worthless in the eyes of the Ford dealer, who tried to give
me loan value, rather than clean wholesale. I retired from Ford so I get
their products at cost less rebates, so the guy wasn't going to make but
$500 on the deal and was trying to make it up on the trade. I fianlly got
them up to NADA clean wholesale, but it still sucked. I was tempted to try
and sell it myself, but they're not moving well right now since the new
one's out in a few weeks. All I can say, whoever buys it is getting a great
vehicle, just too small to yank my YJ & trailer around.
BTW, the F350 Power Stroke is THE TICKET for towing.
07-24-2004, 12:28 AM
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
I'm curious, how much did you get for the XJ? We're kicking ourselves for
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
07-24-2004, 12:28 AM
#47
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
I'm curious, how much did you get for the XJ? We're kicking ourselves for
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
07-24-2004, 12:28 AM
#48
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
I'm curious, how much did you get for the XJ? We're kicking ourselves for
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
07-24-2004, 12:28 AM
#49
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
I'm curious, how much did you get for the XJ? We're kicking ourselves for
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
not just buying smaller tires instead of putting that lift on last year.
Shelled out almost $2000 in repairs since. Still having problems with my
wife's XJ. Not to mention I think we over-paid for it!
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040722233930.14599.00000310@mb-m29.aol.com...
> as many of you know i sold my rubicon last week to get ready to purchase
an
> unlimited rubi (when theyre available) instead of loosing my shirt on
trade.
> as our plans changed around we decided that the wifey would get the
unlimited
> rubi instead so that way we could both get the best of both worlds. we
went
> ahead and traded her XJ today on an '04 cummins 3500 crew cab 4x4.
> http://tinyurl.com/5tmlj course this means she'll drive my dodge until
the
> unlimited rubi is available but thats ok so long as she lets me drive her
rubi
> too. :-)
>
> i was TERRIBLY disappointed in what the XJ brought in trade. by the time
the
> unlimited rubi is released the xj will be beyond its extended warranty
(which
> we have used and used and used) and we felt it would be better to trade it
on a
> more expensive vehicle hoping to get more for it. however, since i bought
the
> cummins using a friends and family discount, they couldnt shuffle the
numbers
> and i got to see what they were really giving me for the XJ. not pretty,
but
> considering the multiple problems and major repairs we've had done under
> warranty i was a bit afraid of what it would end up costing us after the
> warranty expired so it was ultimately worth it to me to make the trade
anyway.
>
> so anyways, now i have a lot to learn about both the powerstroke and the
> cummins since buying one of each about a week apart. ill probably be
scarce
> (at least until theres an unlimited rubi in my yard) while working
overtime to
> try and pay these two beasts off. :-)
>
> ......still a jeeper at heart!
07-24-2004, 12:39 AM
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>Subject: Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>From: L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III ----------@***.net
>I know of many unhappy Ford campers, until they
>bought the turbo.
certainly, makes all the difference in the world. my powerstroke was ok stock,
but chipping it turned it into a real beast. it amazes me to see these huge
trucks cranking out so much power with such little modification. take a look
at this f350 diesel crew cab running the quarter mile in 11.42@118mph
http://tinyurl.com/4gc79
my cummins is pushing 600ft. lbs stock, the powerstroke is around 800 with the
chip and im getting ready to swap out the turbo and retrofit a '99 intercooler.
looked at a chip today that takes the cummins to 950ft. lbs with nothing more
than the chip. i doubt i do that though, i just dont have any need for that
kind of power and question how long the rest of the drivetrain would stand up
to it.
>From: L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III ----------@***.net
>I know of many unhappy Ford campers, until they
>bought the turbo.
certainly, makes all the difference in the world. my powerstroke was ok stock,
but chipping it turned it into a real beast. it amazes me to see these huge
trucks cranking out so much power with such little modification. take a look
at this f350 diesel crew cab running the quarter mile in 11.42@118mph
http://tinyurl.com/4gc79
my cummins is pushing 600ft. lbs stock, the powerstroke is around 800 with the
chip and im getting ready to swap out the turbo and retrofit a '99 intercooler.
looked at a chip today that takes the cummins to 950ft. lbs with nothing more
than the chip. i doubt i do that though, i just dont have any need for that
kind of power and question how long the rest of the drivetrain would stand up
to it.
