totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
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Re: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
>>30-30 is pretty light for
>> an elk unless you are fairly close and an excellent shot.
>
>.....i wouldnt know how to hunt without my trusty '94. in considering
buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>any better?
It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
into the timber and fill that elk tag!
Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
-jeff
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OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
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OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
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OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
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OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
Trapdoor Springfields.
You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
but if that's not your bag, consider the .450 Marlin. Essentially a
belted magnum version of the 45/70 that can comfortably drop just about
anything out to 200 yards. Marlin and Winchester both make nice little
ported lever carbines for this cartridge:
http://tinyurl.com/54fqu
http://tinyurl.com/6mhs7
These work great on moose and bear in the coniferous jungles where I
live, but I'd expect that for those Montana vistas you'd want a flat
shooting bolt action with lots of glass.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Handywired wrote:
>> considering buying a '94 in .44 mag.
>
> It sounds like you have no interest in buying a bunch of new guns ,so...
>
> If you are gonna buy another lever gun, buy a .444 or a 45/70 and then you'll
> at least have a good solid elk caliber. It'll still be a little limited in
> range but if you hunt with a 30-30, then you are the guy (like me) who will be
> perfectly happy getting into the dark timber with the elk. Tote a 45/70 marlin
> into the timber and fill that elk tag!
>
> Otherwise buy a 30-06, which will work just fine for all Montana game from
> antelope to elk. the perfect general caliber and it won't beat you up too bad.
>
> -jeff
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Re: OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff
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Re: OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff
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Re: OT: lever guns WAS: totally jeepless till unlimited rubi
>
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff
>45/70 is a great bush/timber caliber, but factory loads are 'dumbed
>down' so they don't exceed pressure tolerances in old rifles like the
>Trapdoor Springfields.
>
>You can hand load 45/70 to perform to the limits of more modern rifles,
>
>but if that's not your bag, consider the .450
That's all true.... I forgot to mention that. I handload for my 45/70 so I
load my hunting rounds to 450 Marlin pressures.
I should also mention to Nathan that if he takes our advice and buys a .450 or
45/70, be prepared for some serious recoil! A hot load from my 45/70 Guide Gun
is a very intense experience.
But it is indeed a heck of a caliber. THe Hammerhead loads, for example, are
proven to shoot through a Cape Buffalo... lengthwise!
-jeff