Well, I don't remember having heard someone take one off, without damage
(stoopid stunts...'nuff said).
My dad's fell off in my hand once. Old vehicle...happened to be a really
hot day, if htat even helped...


"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-D06hklO2dOy9@anon.none.net...
> I asked 3 different glass shops about getting that little mount off
> and all three just shook their heads and said forget it. The general
> idea of the conversations was that either the damned thing is gonna
> just fall off by itself or it's going to take a divot out of the
> windshield when it comes off. The most helpful guy got this silly
> grin on his face and told me that if the glue had setup for more that
> a day or two that he would bet on the latter - and don't ask how he
> knew that.
>
> They did say that there were some solvents that were supposed to take
> that glue off but that they had never had any luck using it. The glue
> film at the bond interface is too thin for anything to soak and soften
> the whole glue patch. That windshield glue is some mean stuff!
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:45:54 UTC "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just
as
> > soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
> >
> > we'll see..
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > SB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> > behind
> > > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat
are
> > > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror
right
> > in
> > > > the middle of my vision!
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> > mirror
> > > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> > boy,
> > > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> > even
> > > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to
be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> > driving
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> > back
> > > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> > Cherokee
> > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as
much
> > as I
> > > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly.
Pinched
> > > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this
one
> > was
> > > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and
it
> > kept
> > > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head
safe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> > (running on
> > > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed
night
> > late
> > > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment
about
> > the
> > > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he
runs
> > for
> > > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So
I
> > get
> > > > out
> > > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > > sidewalls
> > > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it
took a
> > > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out
some
> > land
> > > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend
had
> > to be
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come
into
> > the
> > > > bush
> > > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> > serious
> > > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at,
4
> > plus
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans
fully
> > loaded
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in
any
> > truck
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to
and
> > the
> > > > yahoos
> > > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from
two
> > lakes
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3
feet
> > away
> > > > from
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> > hawks,
> > > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> > generally
> > > > had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they
take
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming
speak
> > up!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up
to
> > an
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel.
A
> > car
> > > > can
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just
read
> > they
> > > > shot
> > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> > stock
> > > > yet)
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now)
to
> > find
> > > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in
his TJ
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or
smells
> > > > because
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area.
Politicians
> > > > stopped
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't
equating
> > people
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for
food.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast
and we
> > are
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon
trying to
> > run
> > > > > > away with
> > > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we
are
> > > > getting
> > > > > > raided
> > > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing
out
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the
bread
> > on a
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and
retrieve
> > the
> > > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and
they
> > are
> > > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we
though
> > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble
about
> > > > leaving
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not
going
> > to
> > > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the
day
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > treed
> > > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with
anything
> > smelly
> > > > > > locked
> > > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this
zip
> > up
> > > > bag in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> > pile of
> > > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns
sitting
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> > cereals
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just
how
> > the
> > > > heck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay
up.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > we see
> > > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> > trying to
> > > > > > open up
> > > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them
open
> > in
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got
the
> > > > corner
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper
up
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> > those
> > > > buns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often.
The
> > Deer
> > > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick
name...
> > > > Bait!
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me
on
> > many
> > > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> > just
> > > > added
> > > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire
didn't
> > help
> > > > > > him....
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
in
> > '00
> > > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I will have to agree with them.

There is a set screw in it so you can get all but a little square off.

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> I asked 3 different glass shops about getting that little mount off
> and all three just shook their heads and said forget it. The general
> idea of the conversations was that either the damned thing is gonna
> just fall off by itself or it's going to take a divot out of the
> windshield when it comes off. The most helpful guy got this silly
> grin on his face and told me that if the glue had setup for more that
> a day or two that he would bet on the latter - and don't ask how he
> knew that.
>
> They did say that there were some solvents that were supposed to take
> that glue off but that they had never had any luck using it. The glue
> film at the bond interface is too thin for anything to soak and soften
> the whole glue patch. That windshield glue is some mean stuff!
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:45:54 UTC "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> > soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
> >
> > we'll see..
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > SB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> > behind
> > > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> > in
> > > > the middle of my vision!
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> > mirror
> > > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> > boy,
> > > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> > even
> > > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> > driving
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> > back
> > > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> > Cherokee
> > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> > as I
> > > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> > was
> > > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> > kept
> > > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> > (running on
> > > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> > late
> > > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> > the
> > > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> > for
> > > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> > get
> > > > out
> > > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > > sidewalls
> > > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> > land
> > > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> > to be
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> > the
> > > > bush
> > > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> > serious
> > > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> > plus
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> > loaded
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> > truck
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> > the
> > > > yahoos
> > > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> > lakes
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> > away
> > > > from
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> > hawks,
> > > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> > generally
> > > > had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> > up!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> > an
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> > car
> > > > can
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> > they
> > > > shot
> > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> > stock
> > > > yet)
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> > find
> > > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > > because
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > > stopped
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> > people
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> > are
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> > run
> > > > > > away with
> > > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > > getting
> > > > > > raided
> > > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> > on a
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> > the
> > > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> > are
> > > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > > leaving
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> > to
> > > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > treed
> > > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> > smelly
> > > > > > locked
> > > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> > up
> > > > bag in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> > pile of
> > > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> > cereals
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> > the
> > > > heck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > we see
> > > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> > trying to
> > > > > > open up
> > > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> > in
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > > corner
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> > those
> > > > buns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> > Deer
> > > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > > Bait!
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> > many
> > > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> > just
> > > > added
> > > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> > help
> > > > > > him....
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> > '00
> > > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I will have to agree with them.

There is a set screw in it so you can get all but a little square off.

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> I asked 3 different glass shops about getting that little mount off
> and all three just shook their heads and said forget it. The general
> idea of the conversations was that either the damned thing is gonna
> just fall off by itself or it's going to take a divot out of the
> windshield when it comes off. The most helpful guy got this silly
> grin on his face and told me that if the glue had setup for more that
> a day or two that he would bet on the latter - and don't ask how he
> knew that.
>
> They did say that there were some solvents that were supposed to take
> that glue off but that they had never had any luck using it. The glue
> film at the bond interface is too thin for anything to soak and soften
> the whole glue patch. That windshield glue is some mean stuff!
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:45:54 UTC "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> > soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
> >
> > we'll see..
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > SB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> > behind
> > > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> > in
> > > > the middle of my vision!
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> > mirror
> > > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> > boy,
> > > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> > even
> > > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> > driving
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> > back
> > > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> > Cherokee
> > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> > as I
> > > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> > was
> > > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> > kept
> > > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> > (running on
> > > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> > late
> > > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> > the
> > > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> > for
> > > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> > get
> > > > out
> > > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > > sidewalls
> > > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> > land
> > > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> > to be
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> > the
> > > > bush
> > > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> > serious
> > > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> > plus
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> > loaded
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> > truck
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> > the
> > > > yahoos
> > > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> > lakes
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> > away
> > > > from
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> > hawks,
> > > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> > generally
> > > > had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> > up!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> > an
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> > car
> > > > can
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> > they
> > > > shot
> > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> > stock
> > > > yet)
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> > find
> > > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > > because
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > > stopped
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> > people
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> > are
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> > run
> > > > > > away with
> > > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > > getting
> > > > > > raided
> > > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> > on a
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> > the
> > > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> > are
> > > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > > leaving
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> > to
> > > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > treed
> > > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> > smelly
> > > > > > locked
> > > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> > up
> > > > bag in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> > pile of
> > > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> > cereals
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> > the
> > > > heck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > we see
> > > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> > trying to
> > > > > > open up
> > > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> > in
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > > corner
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> > those
> > > > buns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> > Deer
> > > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > > Bait!
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> > many
> > > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> > just
> > > > added
> > > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> > help
> > > > > > him....
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> > '00
> > > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I will have to agree with them.

There is a set screw in it so you can get all but a little square off.

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> I asked 3 different glass shops about getting that little mount off
> and all three just shook their heads and said forget it. The general
> idea of the conversations was that either the damned thing is gonna
> just fall off by itself or it's going to take a divot out of the
> windshield when it comes off. The most helpful guy got this silly
> grin on his face and told me that if the glue had setup for more that
> a day or two that he would bet on the latter - and don't ask how he
> knew that.
>
> They did say that there were some solvents that were supposed to take
> that glue off but that they had never had any luck using it. The glue
> film at the bond interface is too thin for anything to soak and soften
> the whole glue patch. That windshield glue is some mean stuff!
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:45:54 UTC "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> > soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
> >
> > we'll see..
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > SB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> > behind
> > > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> > in
> > > > the middle of my vision!
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> > mirror
> > > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> > boy,
> > > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> > even
> > > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> > driving
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> > back
> > > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> > Cherokee
> > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> > as I
> > > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> > was
> > > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> > kept
> > > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> > (running on
> > > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> > late
> > > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> > the
> > > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> > for
> > > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> > get
> > > > out
> > > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > > sidewalls
> > > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> > land
> > > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> > to be
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> > the
> > > > bush
> > > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> > serious
> > > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> > plus
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> > loaded
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> > truck
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> > the
> > > > yahoos
> > > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> > lakes
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> > away
> > > > from
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> > hawks,
> > > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> > generally
> > > > had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> > up!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> > an
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> > car
> > > > can
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> > they
> > > > shot
> > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> > stock
> > > > yet)
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> > find
> > > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > > because
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > > stopped
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> > people
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> > are
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> > run
> > > > > > away with
> > > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > > getting
> > > > > > raided
> > > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> > on a
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> > the
> > > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> > are
> > > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > > leaving
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> > to
> > > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > treed
> > > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> > smelly
> > > > > > locked
> > > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> > up
> > > > bag in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> > pile of
> > > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> > cereals
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> > the
> > > > heck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > we see
> > > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> > trying to
> > > > > > open up
> > > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> > in
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > > corner
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> > those
> > > > buns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> > Deer
> > > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > > Bait!
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> > many
> > > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> > just
> > > > added
> > > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> > help
> > > > > > him....
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> > '00
> > > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I will have to agree with them.

There is a set screw in it so you can get all but a little square off.

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> I asked 3 different glass shops about getting that little mount off
> and all three just shook their heads and said forget it. The general
> idea of the conversations was that either the damned thing is gonna
> just fall off by itself or it's going to take a divot out of the
> windshield when it comes off. The most helpful guy got this silly
> grin on his face and told me that if the glue had setup for more that
> a day or two that he would bet on the latter - and don't ask how he
> knew that.
>
> They did say that there were some solvents that were supposed to take
> that glue off but that they had never had any luck using it. The glue
> film at the bond interface is too thin for anything to soak and soften
> the whole glue patch. That windshield glue is some mean stuff!
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:45:54 UTC "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> > soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
> >
> > we'll see..
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > SB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> > behind
> > > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> > in
> > > > the middle of my vision!
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> > mirror
> > > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> > boy,
> > > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> > even
> > > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> > driving
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> > back
> > > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> > Cherokee
> > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> > as I
> > > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> > was
> > > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> > kept
> > > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> > (running on
> > > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> > late
> > > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> > the
> > > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> > for
> > > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> > get
> > > > out
> > > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > > sidewalls
> > > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> > land
> > > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> > to be
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> > the
> > > > bush
> > > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> > serious
> > > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> > plus
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> > loaded
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> > truck
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> > the
> > > > yahoos
> > > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> > lakes
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> > away
> > > > from
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> > hawks,
> > > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> > generally
> > > > had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> > up!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> > an
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> > car
> > > > can
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> > they
> > > > shot
> > > > > > it).
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> > stock
> > > > yet)
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> > find
> > > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > > because
> > > > > > there is
> > > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > > stopped
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> > people
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> > are
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> > run
> > > > > > away with
> > > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > > getting
> > > > > > raided
> > > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> > on a
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> > the
> > > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> > are
> > > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > > leaving
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> > to
> > > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > treed
> > > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> > smelly
> > > > > > locked
> > > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> > up
> > > > bag in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> > pile of
> > > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> > cereals
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> > the
> > > > heck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > we see
> > > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> > trying to
> > > > > > open up
> > > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> > in
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > > corner
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> > those
> > > > buns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> > Deer
> > > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > > Bait!
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> > many
> > > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> > just
> > > > added
> > > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> > help
> > > > > > him....
> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> > '00
> > > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

> A little advice when camping I got from Scouts
> is to bring rope and hoist everything up into the air.
> I mean everything, like soap,toothpaste,etc.


I try to do that at least 100 yards from my camp, no sense in waking up to
dancing bears.

A few years ago I was at a motorcycle campout in the redwoods with about 100
others, and upon coming back to her camp from the main bonfire, a friend
discovered her $400 custom made leather jacket to be missing. These events
are attended by some pretty decent people, (no alcohol or drugs), and thefts
would be unlikely.
A bunch of us wandered around and couldn't find it. She had layed it up
against a tree next to her tent.
In the morning, i went out to do as we need to do then, and discovered drag
marks from the tree into the brush. About half way down the hill, I found
her jacket with the inner liner chewed out at the pocket. She said some
candy was in there, but wasn't now!

The year before, 6 of us were sitting around a small fire, eating peanuts
and throwing shells into the fire. One guy was tossing them behind him. He
was told he shouldn't do that as it attracts racoons. Just about then, one
of the ones behind him sniffed his elbow. You should have seen that city boy
jump!


Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

> A little advice when camping I got from Scouts
> is to bring rope and hoist everything up into the air.
> I mean everything, like soap,toothpaste,etc.


I try to do that at least 100 yards from my camp, no sense in waking up to
dancing bears.

A few years ago I was at a motorcycle campout in the redwoods with about 100
others, and upon coming back to her camp from the main bonfire, a friend
discovered her $400 custom made leather jacket to be missing. These events
are attended by some pretty decent people, (no alcohol or drugs), and thefts
would be unlikely.
A bunch of us wandered around and couldn't find it. She had layed it up
against a tree next to her tent.
In the morning, i went out to do as we need to do then, and discovered drag
marks from the tree into the brush. About half way down the hill, I found
her jacket with the inner liner chewed out at the pocket. She said some
candy was in there, but wasn't now!

The year before, 6 of us were sitting around a small fire, eating peanuts
and throwing shells into the fire. One guy was tossing them behind him. He
was told he shouldn't do that as it attracts racoons. Just about then, one
of the ones behind him sniffed his elbow. You should have seen that city boy
jump!


Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

> A little advice when camping I got from Scouts
> is to bring rope and hoist everything up into the air.
> I mean everything, like soap,toothpaste,etc.


I try to do that at least 100 yards from my camp, no sense in waking up to
dancing bears.

A few years ago I was at a motorcycle campout in the redwoods with about 100
others, and upon coming back to her camp from the main bonfire, a friend
discovered her $400 custom made leather jacket to be missing. These events
are attended by some pretty decent people, (no alcohol or drugs), and thefts
would be unlikely.
A bunch of us wandered around and couldn't find it. She had layed it up
against a tree next to her tent.
In the morning, i went out to do as we need to do then, and discovered drag
marks from the tree into the brush. About half way down the hill, I found
her jacket with the inner liner chewed out at the pocket. She said some
candy was in there, but wasn't now!

The year before, 6 of us were sitting around a small fire, eating peanuts
and throwing shells into the fire. One guy was tossing them behind him. He
was told he shouldn't do that as it attracts racoons. Just about then, one
of the ones behind him sniffed his elbow. You should have seen that city boy
jump!


Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

 

> A little advice when camping I got from Scouts
> is to bring rope and hoist everything up into the air.
> I mean everything, like soap,toothpaste,etc.


I try to do that at least 100 yards from my camp, no sense in waking up to
dancing bears.

A few years ago I was at a motorcycle campout in the redwoods with about 100
others, and upon coming back to her camp from the main bonfire, a friend
discovered her $400 custom made leather jacket to be missing. These events
are attended by some pretty decent people, (no alcohol or drugs), and thefts
would be unlikely.
A bunch of us wandered around and couldn't find it. She had layed it up
against a tree next to her tent.
In the morning, i went out to do as we need to do then, and discovered drag
marks from the tree into the brush. About half way down the hill, I found
her jacket with the inner liner chewed out at the pocket. She said some
candy was in there, but wasn't now!

The year before, 6 of us were sitting around a small fire, eating peanuts
and throwing shells into the fire. One guy was tossing them behind him. He
was told he shouldn't do that as it attracts racoons. Just about then, one
of the ones behind him sniffed his elbow. You should have seen that city boy
jump!


Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California