TJ got raided for food out camping!
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
We had a nice time.
I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
still.
Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
nerves are nasty.
I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
tire pressure.
'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
'say' 50 psi on them....
I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
Mike
jbjeep wrote:
>
> Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
>
> How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> -jenn
>
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be back
> >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> >>
> >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> >>one way from paved roads.
> >>
> >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> >>
> >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> >>
> >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> >>
> >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from a
> >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had a
> >>nice couple days.
> >>
> >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> >>
> >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can run
> >>this trip.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>SB wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Short trip eh?
> >>>
> >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot it).
> >>>
> >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> >>>
> >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet) but
> >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> >>> anything....
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> >>> >
> >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we were
> >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because there is
> >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped the
> >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people with
> >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> >>> >
> >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are down to
> >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> >>> >
> >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run away with
> >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting raided
> >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the day?'
> >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> >>> >
> >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a branch
> >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the bread.
> >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are still ok.
> >>> >
> >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they were
> >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving food
> >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to argue.
> >>> >
> >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we treed
> >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> >>> >
> >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly locked
> >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in the
> >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> >>> >
> >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of crumbs in
> >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the floor!
> >>> >
> >>> > WTF?
> >>> >
> >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and other
> >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> >>> >
> >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck this
> >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then we see
> >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> >>> >
> >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to open up
> >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in several
> >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner started
> >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to get
> >>> > in.
> >>> >
> >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns and
> >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> >>> >
> >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> >>> >
> >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> >>> >
> >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer flies and
> >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait! ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added flavor
> >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help him....
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
still.
Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
nerves are nasty.
I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
tire pressure.
'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
'say' 50 psi on them....
I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
Mike
jbjeep wrote:
>
> Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
>
> How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> -jenn
>
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be back
> >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> >>
> >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> >>one way from paved roads.
> >>
> >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> >>
> >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> >>
> >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> >>
> >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from a
> >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had a
> >>nice couple days.
> >>
> >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> >>
> >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can run
> >>this trip.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>SB wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Short trip eh?
> >>>
> >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot it).
> >>>
> >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> >>>
> >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet) but
> >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> >>> anything....
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> >>> >
> >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we were
> >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because there is
> >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped the
> >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people with
> >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> >>> >
> >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are down to
> >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> >>> >
> >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run away with
> >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting raided
> >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the day?'
> >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> >>> >
> >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a branch
> >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the bread.
> >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are still ok.
> >>> >
> >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they were
> >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving food
> >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to argue.
> >>> >
> >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we treed
> >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> >>> >
> >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly locked
> >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in the
> >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> >>> >
> >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of crumbs in
> >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the floor!
> >>> >
> >>> > WTF?
> >>> >
> >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and other
> >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> >>> >
> >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck this
> >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then we see
> >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> >>> >
> >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to open up
> >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in several
> >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner started
> >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to get
> >>> > in.
> >>> >
> >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns and
> >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> >>> >
> >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> >>> >
> >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> >>> >
> >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer flies and
> >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait! ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added flavor
> >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help him....
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#23
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> We had a nice time.
>
> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
>
> I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> still.
>
> Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> nerves are nasty.
>
> I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
>
> So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> tire pressure.
>
> 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> 'say' 50 psi on them....
>
> I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
>
> The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
>
> Mike
>
> jbjeep wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> >
> > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > -jenn
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
> > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
back
> > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > >>
> > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > >>one way from paved roads.
> > >>
> > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > >>
> > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > >>
> > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > >>
> > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
a
> > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
a
> > >>nice couple days.
> > >>
> > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > >>
> > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
run
> > >>this trip.
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>SB wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Short trip eh?
> > >>>
> > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
it).
> > >>>
> > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
but
> > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > >>> anything....
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
were
> > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
there is
> > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
the
> > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
with
> > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
down to
> > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
away with
> > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
raided
> > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
day?'
> > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
branch
> > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
bread.
> > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
still ok.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
were
> > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
food
> > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
argue.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
treed
> > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
locked
> > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
the
> > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
crumbs in
> > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
floor!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > WTF?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
other
> > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
this
> > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
we see
> > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
open up
> > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
several
> > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
started
> > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
get
> > >>> > in.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
and
> > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
flies and
> > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
;-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
flavor
> > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
him....
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mike
> > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
close for a fit for me.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > We had a nice time.
> >
> > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> >
> > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving for
> > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > still.
> >
> > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > nerves are nasty.
> >
> > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I couldn't
> > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> >
> > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > tire pressure.
> >
> > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get out
> > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the sidewalls
> > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> >
> > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> >
> > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > jbjeep wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > >
> > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > -jenn
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> back
> > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the bush
> > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > >>
> > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus hours
> > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded can
> > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > >>
> > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck so
> > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > >>
> > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the yahoos
> > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes away
> > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > >>
> > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away from
> a
> > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally had
> a
> > > >>nice couple days.
> > > >>
> > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it easy
> > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > >>
> > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an hour
> > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car can
> run
> > > >>this trip.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>SB wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they shot
> it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock yet)
> but
> > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > >>> anything....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we
> were
> > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because
> there is
> > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped
> the
> > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> with
> > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> down to
> > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> away with
> > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting
> raided
> > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the
> day?'
> > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> branch
> > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> bread.
> > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> still ok.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> were
> > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving
> food
> > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> argue.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we
> treed
> > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> locked
> > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in
> the
> > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> crumbs in
> > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the
> floor!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > WTF?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and
> other
> > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck
> this
> > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then
> we see
> > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> open up
> > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> several
> > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner
> started
> > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to
> get
> > > >>> > in.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns
> and
> > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> flies and
> > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait!
> ;-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added
> flavor
> > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> him....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mike
> > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!
Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!
Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's