FrankW

LOL Buggers eh!
A little advice when camping I got from Scouts
is to bring rope and hoist everything up into the air.
I mean everything, like soap,toothpaste,etc.
Cheers
Frank

Mike Romain wrote:
> LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
>
> I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and we were
> being careful about garbage and any open food or smells because there is
> a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians stopped the
> spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people with
> guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
>
> So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are down to
> the lake washing dishes.
>
> I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run away with
> a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are getting raided
> by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in the day?'
> I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
>
> So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a branch
> about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the bread.
> Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are still ok.
>
> Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they were
> zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about leaving food
> bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to argue.
>
> So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and we treed
> him both times. He still didn't get the point...
>
> Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly locked
> inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up bag in the
> TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
>
> I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of crumbs in
> the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on the floor!
>
> WTF?
>
> 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals and other
> breads and not a ding on anything!
>
> Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the heck this
> damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up. Then we see
> the paw prints in the dust.
>
> The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to open up
> the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in several
> places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the corner started
> where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough to get
> in.
>
> He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those buns and
> sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
>
> He then up and left without touching another thing!
>
> I will be watching for that from now on.
>
> I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
>
> I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer flies and
> Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name... Bait! ;-)
>
> I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just added flavor
> for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help him....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

I think you can get them off with heat and a twist, but I don't know for
sure. Maybe make a post asking everyone.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
>
> we'll see..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> behind
> > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> in
> > > the middle of my vision!
> > >
> > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> mirror
> > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> boy,
> > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> even
> > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> one
> > > of
> > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> driving
> > > for
> > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> back
> > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> Cherokee
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> as I
> > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> was
> > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> kept
> > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> (running on
> > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> late
> > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> the
> > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> for
> > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> get
> > > out
> > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > sidewalls
> > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> land
> > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> to be
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> the
> > > bush
> > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> serious
> > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> plus
> > > hours
> > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> loaded
> > > can
> > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> truck
> > > so
> > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> the
> > > yahoos
> > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> lakes
> > > away
> > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> away
> > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> hawks,
> > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> generally
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> it
> > > easy
> > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> up!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> an
> > > hour
> > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> car
> > > can
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> they
> > > shot
> > > > > it).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> stock
> > > yet)
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> find
> > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> and
> > > we
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > because
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > stopped
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> people
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> are
> > > > > down to
> > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> run
> > > > > away with
> > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > getting
> > > > > raided
> > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> in
> > > the
> > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> on a
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> the
> > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> are
> > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > leaving
> > > > > food
> > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> to
> > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> and
> > > we
> > > > > treed
> > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> smelly
> > > > > locked
> > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> up
> > > bag in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> pile of
> > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> on
> > > the
> > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> cereals
> > > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> the
> > > heck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > Then
> > > > > we see
> > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> trying to
> > > > > open up
> > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> in
> > > > > several
> > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > corner
> > > > > started
> > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> enough
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> those
> > > buns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> Deer
> > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > Bait!
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> many
> > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> just
> > > added
> > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> help
> > > > > him....
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

I think you can get them off with heat and a twist, but I don't know for
sure. Maybe make a post asking everyone.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
>
> we'll see..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> behind
> > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> in
> > > the middle of my vision!
> > >
> > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> mirror
> > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> boy,
> > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> even
> > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> one
> > > of
> > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> driving
> > > for
> > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> back
> > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> Cherokee
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> as I
> > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> was
> > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> kept
> > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> (running on
> > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> late
> > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> the
> > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> for
> > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> get
> > > out
> > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > sidewalls
> > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> land
> > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> to be
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> the
> > > bush
> > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> serious
> > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> plus
> > > hours
> > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> loaded
> > > can
> > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> truck
> > > so
> > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> the
> > > yahoos
> > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> lakes
> > > away
> > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> away
> > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> hawks,
> > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> generally
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> it
> > > easy
> > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> up!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> an
> > > hour
> > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> car
> > > can
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> they
> > > shot
> > > > > it).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> stock
> > > yet)
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> find
> > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> and
> > > we
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > because
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > stopped
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> people
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> are
> > > > > down to
> > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> run
> > > > > away with
> > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > getting
> > > > > raided
> > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> in
> > > the
> > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> on a
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> the
> > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> are
> > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > leaving
> > > > > food
> > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> to
> > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> and
> > > we
> > > > > treed
> > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> smelly
> > > > > locked
> > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> up
> > > bag in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> pile of
> > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> on
> > > the
> > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> cereals
> > > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> the
> > > heck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > Then
> > > > > we see
> > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> trying to
> > > > > open up
> > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> in
> > > > > several
> > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > corner
> > > > > started
> > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> enough
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> those
> > > buns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> Deer
> > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > Bait!
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> many
> > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> just
> > > added
> > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> help
> > > > > him....
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

I think you can get them off with heat and a twist, but I don't know for
sure. Maybe make a post asking everyone.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
>
> we'll see..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> behind
> > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> in
> > > the middle of my vision!
> > >
> > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> mirror
> > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> boy,
> > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> even
> > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> one
> > > of
> > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> driving
> > > for
> > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> back
> > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> Cherokee
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> as I
> > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> was
> > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> kept
> > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> (running on
> > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> late
> > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> the
> > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> for
> > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> get
> > > out
> > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > sidewalls
> > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> land
> > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> to be
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> the
> > > bush
> > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> serious
> > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> plus
> > > hours
> > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> loaded
> > > can
> > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> truck
> > > so
> > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> the
> > > yahoos
> > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> lakes
> > > away
> > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> away
> > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> hawks,
> > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> generally
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> it
> > > easy
> > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> up!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> an
> > > hour
> > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> car
> > > can
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> they
> > > shot
> > > > > it).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> stock
> > > yet)
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> find
> > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> and
> > > we
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > because
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > stopped
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> people
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> are
> > > > > down to
> > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> run
> > > > > away with
> > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > getting
> > > > > raided
> > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> in
> > > the
> > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> on a
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> the
> > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> are
> > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > leaving
> > > > > food
> > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> to
> > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> and
> > > we
> > > > > treed
> > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> smelly
> > > > > locked
> > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> up
> > > bag in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> pile of
> > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> on
> > > the
> > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> cereals
> > > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> the
> > > heck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > Then
> > > > > we see
> > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> trying to
> > > > > open up
> > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> in
> > > > > several
> > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > corner
> > > > > started
> > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> enough
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> those
> > > buns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> Deer
> > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > Bait!
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> many
> > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> just
> > > added
> > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> help
> > > > > him....
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

I think you can get them off with heat and a twist, but I don't know for
sure. Maybe make a post asking everyone.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
> soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....
>
> we'll see..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> > It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> > wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
> behind
> > > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
> in
> > > the middle of my vision!
> > >
> > > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
> mirror
> > > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > > would love to move that thing up higher!
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
> boy,
> > > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
> even
> > > > close for a fit for me.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
> one
> > > of
> > > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
> driving
> > > for
> > > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
> back
> > > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
> Cherokee
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
> as I
> > > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
> was
> > > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
> kept
> > > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
> (running on
> > > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
> late
> > > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
> the
> > > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
> for
> > > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
> get
> > > out
> > > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > > sidewalls
> > > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
> land
> > > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
> to be
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
> the
> > > bush
> > > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
> serious
> > > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
> plus
> > > hours
> > > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
> loaded
> > > can
> > > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
> truck
> > > so
> > > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
> the
> > > yahoos
> > > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
> lakes
> > > away
> > > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
> away
> > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
> hawks,
> > > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
> generally
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
> it
> > > easy
> > > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
> up!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
> an
> > > hour
> > > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
> car
> > > can
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
> they
> > > shot
> > > > > it).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
> stock
> > > yet)
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
> find
> > > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
> and
> > > we
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > > because
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > > stopped
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
> people
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
> are
> > > > > down to
> > > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
> run
> > > > > away with
> > > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > > getting
> > > > > raided
> > > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
> in
> > > the
> > > > > day?'
> > > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
> on a
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
> the
> > > > > bread.
> > > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
> are
> > > > > still ok.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
> they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > > leaving
> > > > > food
> > > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
> to
> > > > > argue.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
> and
> > > we
> > > > > treed
> > > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
> smelly
> > > > > locked
> > > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
> up
> > > bag in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
> pile of
> > > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
> on
> > > the
> > > > > floor!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
> cereals
> > > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
> the
> > > heck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > > Then
> > > > > we see
> > > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
> trying to
> > > > > open up
> > > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
> in
> > > > > several
> > > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > > corner
> > > > > started
> > > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
> enough
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
> those
> > > buns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
> Deer
> > > > > flies and
> > > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > > Bait!
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
> many
> > > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
> just
> > > added
> > > > > flavor
> > > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
> help
> > > > > him....
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> > > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Cherokee-LTD

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:
: Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
: off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
: window...how to you remove the glued part?
: would love to move that thing up higher!
:
Can you turn the mirror 180* to make a difference or is the mount dead
centre on the back of the mirror?
-Brian

Cherokee-LTD

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:
: Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
: off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
: window...how to you remove the glued part?
: would love to move that thing up higher!
:
Can you turn the mirror 180* to make a difference or is the mount dead
centre on the back of the mirror?
-Brian

Cherokee-LTD

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:
: Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
: off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
: window...how to you remove the glued part?
: would love to move that thing up higher!
:
Can you turn the mirror 180* to make a difference or is the mount dead
centre on the back of the mirror?
-Brian

Cherokee-LTD

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:
: Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
: off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
: window...how to you remove the glued part?
: would love to move that thing up higher!
:
Can you turn the mirror 180* to make a difference or is the mount dead
centre on the back of the mirror?
-Brian

Jerry McG

> I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one of
> the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in! >

Seats are too low for me. They lowered the YJ seats just a bit, but really
lowered them in the TJ. A friend's daughter is petite and had to have some
spacers put under the driver's seat so she could see out.