SB

I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB

I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB

I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one
> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving
> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get
> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the
> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus
> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded
> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck
> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the
> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes
> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away
> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally
> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it
> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an
> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car
> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they
> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock
> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and
> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in
> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and
> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up
> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on
> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals
> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the
> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough
> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those
> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just
> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB

yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB

yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB

yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly
behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right
in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the
mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big
boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't
even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be
one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried
driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat
back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the
Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much
as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one
was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it
kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I
> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station
(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night
late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about
the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs
for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I
get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the
> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some
land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had
to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into
the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a
serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4
plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully
loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any
truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and
the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two
lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet
away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,
hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and
generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take
it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak
up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to
an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A
car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read
they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only
stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to
find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ
and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells
> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians
> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating
people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we
are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to
run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are
> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out
in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread
on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve
the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they
are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though
they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about
> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going
to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day
and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything
smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip
up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a
pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting
on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and
cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how
the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.
> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top
trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open
in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the
> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up
enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed
those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The
Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...
> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on
many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,
just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't
help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's