John, I've never seen a Honda off road further than a dirt parking lot,
have you?
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Generic wrote:
>
> There's room for improvement. Here's a pretty direct comparison between a
> Wrangler SE and the Honda CR-V.
>
> Wrangler SE: Curb weight 3235, 147 HP @ 5200 RPM, 165 lb-ft @ 4000 RPM, EPA
> city 18, highway 20-21.
>
> CR-V: Curb weight 3258, 160 HP @ 6000 RPM, 162 lb-ft @ 3600 RPM, EPA city
> 21, highway 25.
>
> The Honda makes more horsepower and the same torque (at lower RPM), but gets
> 4-5 more miles per gallon on the highway. When you load one up with huge
> tires and offroad gear the mileage would certainly drop, but that's almost
> certainly not what the OP had in mind with his Jeep.
>
> -John
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:412A9887.71CF6272@***.net...
> > Because most of the TJs we see on the road weigh in at two tons,
> > it's physically impossible to get better mileage.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Generic wrote:
> > >
> > > That's not the point. The factory Wrangler engines make only 150 to 200
> HP,
> > > so why couldn't they get better mileage with a newer tech engine? You
> don't
> > > need the full 400 HP.
> > >
> > > -John

 

Generic proclaimed:

> That's not the point. The factory Wrangler engines make only 150 to 200 HP,
> so why couldn't they get better mileage with a newer tech engine? You don't
> need the full 400 HP.
>
But why not? Just swap in the displacement on demand Hemi and get
both power and mileage. Or find a VW TDI V-10 diesel and drop that
in there...

 

Generic proclaimed:

> That's not the point. The factory Wrangler engines make only 150 to 200 HP,
> so why couldn't they get better mileage with a newer tech engine? You don't
> need the full 400 HP.
>
But why not? Just swap in the displacement on demand Hemi and get
both power and mileage. Or find a VW TDI V-10 diesel and drop that
in there...

 

Generic proclaimed:

> That's not the point. The factory Wrangler engines make only 150 to 200 HP,
> so why couldn't they get better mileage with a newer tech engine? You don't
> need the full 400 HP.
>
But why not? Just swap in the displacement on demand Hemi and get
both power and mileage. Or find a VW TDI V-10 diesel and drop that
in there...

 

Generic proclaimed:

> That's not the point. The factory Wrangler engines make only 150 to 200 HP,
> so why couldn't they get better mileage with a newer tech engine? You don't
> need the full 400 HP.
>
But why not? Just swap in the displacement on demand Hemi and get
both power and mileage. Or find a VW TDI V-10 diesel and drop that
in there...

 

I'll second that...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:412AB121.718AB43C@***.net...
> I can hardly wait for November, when we get rid of Kalifornia's
> bleeding heart liberals, Boxer and Feinstein.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Harris, it's an election year, civility goes out the window...
> >
> > ;-)

 

I'll second that...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:412AB121.718AB43C@***.net...
> I can hardly wait for November, when we get rid of Kalifornia's
> bleeding heart liberals, Boxer and Feinstein.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Harris, it's an election year, civility goes out the window...
> >
> > ;-)

 

I'll second that...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:412AB121.718AB43C@***.net...
> I can hardly wait for November, when we get rid of Kalifornia's
> bleeding heart liberals, Boxer and Feinstein.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Harris, it's an election year, civility goes out the window...
> >
> > ;-)

 

I'll second that...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:412AB121.718AB43C@***.net...
> I can hardly wait for November, when we get rid of Kalifornia's
> bleeding heart liberals, Boxer and Feinstein.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Harris, it's an election year, civility goes out the window...
> >
> > ;-)

 

Hi Rich,
You know none of the Military absentee ballots were counted from
Florida for the presidential election, here's hoping yours from the east
coast are counted in San Diego.
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Harris Family wrote:
>
> I'll second that...