TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Bill,
I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
asked the question then edit again. Then send.
Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41295025.DAC046F5@***.net...
> Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
> "I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.
>
> thanks."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Hrd wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask
a
> > simple question.
I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
asked the question then edit again. Then send.
Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41295025.DAC046F5@***.net...
> Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
> "I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.
>
> thanks."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Hrd wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask
a
> > simple question.
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
"Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been reading
this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
[For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
Corvette.]
-John
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
"Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been reading
this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
[For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
Corvette.]
-John
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
"Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been reading
this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
[For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
Corvette.]
-John
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
"Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been reading
this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
[For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
Corvette.]
-John
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Hi Rich,
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Hi Rich,
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Hi Rich,
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Hi Rich,
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Harris Family wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
> rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
> you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
> did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
> happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
> past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
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Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
Bill,
I agree, you and I bought our Jeps because they are Jeeps, but many people
out there are concerned with MPG. Hell, I'd jump on a chance to economically
save a few bucks at the pump as long as performance didn't suffer. But you
and I know that's a pipe dream, some people don't know that. All I say, is
give the guy a break, he's probably new to this. Think back to when you
didn't know a spark plug from a coil. (I'm sure there was a time) Didn't you
want to learn without being flame spayed everytime you asked a question? All
I'm saying is lighten up on the new guys. They, in future, may have valuable
information to offer to the NG.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41296908.22D86066@***.net...
> Hi Rich,
> When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
> criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Harris Family wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
I agree, you and I bought our Jeps because they are Jeeps, but many people
out there are concerned with MPG. Hell, I'd jump on a chance to economically
save a few bucks at the pump as long as performance didn't suffer. But you
and I know that's a pipe dream, some people don't know that. All I say, is
give the guy a break, he's probably new to this. Think back to when you
didn't know a spark plug from a coil. (I'm sure there was a time) Didn't you
want to learn without being flame spayed everytime you asked a question? All
I'm saying is lighten up on the new guys. They, in future, may have valuable
information to offer to the NG.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41296908.22D86066@***.net...
> Hi Rich,
> When you were buying your Jeep was gas mileage apart of your
> criteria. Sure, I'm buying a Vette with an LT1 for the mileage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Harris Family wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!