"munchiechee" <munchiechee@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.


Gas is much cheaper than engines.

-Fred W

 

And a heavy gas-guzzler is the cheapest life insurance we may buy.
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"Fred W." wrote:
>
> Gas is much cheaper than engines.
>
> -Fred W

 

And a heavy gas-guzzler is the cheapest life insurance we may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Fred W." wrote:
>
> Gas is much cheaper than engines.
>
> -Fred W

 

And a heavy gas-guzzler is the cheapest life insurance we may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Fred W." wrote:
>
> Gas is much cheaper than engines.
>
> -Fred W

 

And a heavy gas-guzzler is the cheapest life insurance we may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Fred W." wrote:
>
> Gas is much cheaper than engines.
>
> -Fred W

 

Not to bud in, but I am. a Vette has slightly better aerodynamics then a
J**P. As for the attitude thing.. every family has its quirks and
nutballs, Judge as you want, but you won't find any other place with as
much helpful info as right here.

Snow...

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
> where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
> thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
>
> My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been
reading
> this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
>
> [For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
> Corvette.]
>
> -John
>
>

 

Not to bud in, but I am. a Vette has slightly better aerodynamics then a
J**P. As for the attitude thing.. every family has its quirks and
nutballs, Judge as you want, but you won't find any other place with as
much helpful info as right here.

Snow...

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:412967c4$0$95606$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
>
> "Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
> where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
> thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
>
> My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been
reading
> this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
>
> [For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
> Corvette.]
>
> -John
>
>

 

Not to bud in, but I am. a Vette has slightly better aerodynamics then a
J**P. As for the attitude thing.. every family has its quirks and
nutballs, Judge as you want, but you won't find any other place with as
much helpful info as right here.

Snow...

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:412967c4$0$95606$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
>
> "Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
> where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
> thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
>
> My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been
reading
> this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
>
> [For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
> Corvette.]
>
> -John
>
>

 

Not to bud in, but I am. a Vette has slightly better aerodynamics then a
J**P. As for the attitude thing.. every family has its quirks and
nutballs, Judge as you want, but you won't find any other place with as
much helpful info as right here.

Snow...

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:412967c4$0$95606$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
>
> "Harris Family" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3xdWc.10373$Bt5.866@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill,
> > I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a
troll,
> > rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place
> where
> > you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most
everyone
> > did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of
> thing
> > happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for
the
> > past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
> > Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
> > asked the question then edit again. Then send.
> > Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!
>
> My thoughts exactly. No evidence of trolling by the OP. I've been
reading
> this group for only a few weeks but have noticed the attitude.
>
> [For that matter, Chevy can somehow get 20+ MPG with the new 400 HP
> Corvette.]
>
> -John
>
>

 

He got all the logical answers, just not the one he wanted to justify
his project. If he started out saying that he wanted to do this project
and knew he would never recoup his investment, the outcome might have
differed. Fact is, his reasons for doing the project were glaring and
that's why he didn't get much in the way of "use a GM V6 XXXXX for your
really cool project". People do Jeep engine swaps for a variety of
reasons, mpg is just not usually one of them.

My ultimate suggestion to the OP, is to purchase a fuel efficient car
for daily drudgery and keep his Jeep for sheer fun, orig. motor intact.

Either way, I'd be interested in hearing about any engine swap for
whatever reasons, good luck!!

Snow wrote:

> Not to bud in, but I am. a Vette has slightly better aerodynamics then a
> J**P. As for the attitude thing.. every family has its quirks and
> nutballs, Judge as you want, but you won't find any other place with as
> much helpful info as right here.
>
> Snow...

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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