T18/Dana300 swap update
02-13-2004, 09:21 AM
#81
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
02-13-2004, 09:21 AM
#82
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
02-13-2004, 03:20 PM
#83
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
02-13-2004, 03:20 PM
#84
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
02-13-2004, 03:20 PM
#85
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
> if it goes, what was it?
> Greg
02-15-2004, 11:28 AM
#86
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Look what I found :
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
02-15-2004, 11:28 AM
#87
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Look what I found :
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
02-15-2004, 11:28 AM
#88
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Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Look what I found :
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convtrans/fordt18/
and it says :
The Jeep T-150, T-18, T-176, SR-4, T-4, and T-5 all use a 1 1/8" 10
spline input shaft and the Ford T-18 uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input
shaft. Your old clutch disk will not fit snuggly on the Ford input
shaft, so you will need to purchase a new disk. The disk can be a
regular 10 1/2" Ford disk (or 11" if you have an 11" clutch). The
Centerforce clutch disk #384180 is a 10 1/2" clutch that will fit the
Ford transmission.
So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It's a freak thing, must be two like metals used on both the input
> shaft sleeve and the throw out bearing's sliding surface that cause them
> to gall, exaggerated by a not fully released bearing holding it in a
> cocked position so as to cause a notch wearing vibration.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
>>if it goes, what was it?
>>Greg
02-15-2004, 01:27 PM
#89
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
>So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
The standard '79 jeep clutch does work - unlike the '81+ model years, the '79
uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input shaft. The later models have a 1 1/8" 10 spline
input shaft.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
The standard '79 jeep clutch does work - unlike the '81+ model years, the '79
uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input shaft. The later models have a 1 1/8" 10 spline
input shaft.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
02-15-2004, 01:27 PM
#90
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
>So does that mean that a standard 79 CJ clutch won't work ?
The standard '79 jeep clutch does work - unlike the '81+ model years, the '79
uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input shaft. The later models have a 1 1/8" 10 spline
input shaft.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
The standard '79 jeep clutch does work - unlike the '81+ model years, the '79
uses a 1 1/16" 10 spline input shaft. The later models have a 1 1/8" 10 spline
input shaft.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com