T18/Dana300 swap update
02-12-2004, 04:15 PM
#71
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
I run an eleven and half inch Scheifer:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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02-12-2004, 04:15 PM
#72
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
I run an eleven and half inch Scheifer:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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02-12-2004, 04:15 PM
#73
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
I run an eleven and half inch Scheifer:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
02-12-2004, 04:27 PM
#74
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yup, use a tape measure on the flywheel wear mark....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
02-12-2004, 04:27 PM
#75
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Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yup, use a tape measure on the flywheel wear mark....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
02-12-2004, 04:27 PM
#76
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Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yup, use a tape measure on the flywheel wear mark....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Yup, that is why I am changing it.
>
> Is there a way you can tell from the flywheel what disc/clutch size it
> needs ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Did the last clutch work?
> >
> > Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
> >
> > A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
> > to the size of the disk or shoe.
> >
> > If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
> > you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
> >
> > I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
> > 2.75", that works.
> >
> > The other way around doesn't.
> >
> > 'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
> >>
> >>The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> >>surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok cool...
> >>>>
> >>>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>>>
> >>>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>>>answer, right ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Robert Bills
> >>>>>KG6LMV
> >>>>>Orange County CA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
02-12-2004, 04:32 PM
#77
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Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yes, that burned out clutch pressure plate came out of my rig and is a
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
02-12-2004, 04:32 PM
#78
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yes, that burned out clutch pressure plate came out of my rig and is a
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
02-12-2004, 04:32 PM
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Yes, that burned out clutch pressure plate came out of my rig and is a
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
photo I took.
I was told it was a 'center force' clutch...
One month past warranty too eh! Grrr....
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> is that the clutch out of your rig ?
>
> that's a diafragm style clutch..(or was) isn't it ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Live and learn eh...
> >
> > I had 'no' freaking idea that ding in the nose piece of the tranny would
> > cause that burn out when I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7!
> >
> > I did just save another Jeeper the same headache by ID'ing the ding as
> > the reason his pressure plate got burned out just like mine so that was
> > a cool thing to learn...
> >
> > It was -25C when we did the job.....
> >
> > Instead of him just replacing his clutch like I did just to burn it out
> > fast like I did, he learned to replace the nose piece or 'bearing
> > retainer' cone with the burned out pressure plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> >>sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
> >>http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >>>
> >>>What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> >>>Jeep.
> >>>
> >>>Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> >>>plate of either size.
> >>>
> >>>The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >>>
> >>>I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> >>>damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> >>>safe side....
> >>>
> >>>No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> >>>'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
02-13-2004, 09:21 AM
#80
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
What was the cause of this, to late now since mine is all bolted up, but
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
if it goes, what was it?
Greg
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402BDAE0.BC827D91@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> This reminds me of when your throw out bearing had a notch on the
> sleeve and wore the fingers off the plate, the picture you gave us:
>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fdc454dc.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's