T18/Dana300 swap update
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
>
> What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> Jeep.
>
> Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> plate of either size.
>
> The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
>
> I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> safe side....
>
> No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Ok cool...
>>
>>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>>
>>So what is it that originally is in there ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Robert Bills wrote:
>>
>>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
>>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
>>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
>>>>answer, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
>>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
>>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
>>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
>>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
>>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you mean the overall height ?
>>>
>>>
>>>yes.
>>>
>>>Robert Bills
>>>KG6LMV
>>>Orange County CA
>>>
>>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>>http://www.RobertBills.com
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Ok,
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Ok,
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Ok,
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
difference in pressure plate too ?
Ron
Robert Bills wrote:
>>"with a
>>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
>
>
> Get the 10.5.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
And flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
Guest
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
And flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
And flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Is there a difference (except the for the .5") between the 10.5" and the
> 11" disk ? is it just the difference in the disk .. or is it a
> difference in pressure plate too ?
>
> Ron
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Re: T18/Dana300 swap update
Did the last clutch work?
Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
to the size of the disk or shoe.
If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
2.75", that works.
The other way around doesn't.
'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
>
> The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Ok cool...
> >>
> >>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>
> >>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>
> >>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>answer, right ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>yes.
> >>>
> >>>Robert Bills
> >>>KG6LMV
> >>>Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>http://www.RobertBills.com
Oops, maybe not eh, which is why you are changing it.
A clutch ia like a brake, you have to match the flywheel or brake drum
to the size of the disk or shoe.
If you go all new parts, it makes no matter, if you mix and match, then
you have to go with the wear pattern on the flywheel or brake drum.
I have seen a mess of brakes where the drum was 3" and the shoes were
2.75", that works.
The other way around doesn't.
'Totally wrong' from stock doesn't mean it won't work just fine.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> Uhm, the last working clutch I don't have anymore.
>
> The clutch I have now might be totally wrong...and the flywqheel was
> surfaced before I put the last clutch on.
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > You need to measure the mark on the flywheel from the last clutch.
> >
> > What was originally in there has no bearing 20 or more years later in a
> > Jeep.
> >
> > Or get the flywheel turned 'flat' and buy an all new clutch and pressure
> > plate of either size.
> >
> > The pressure plate will also be bigger if the clutch is bigger.
> >
> > I just helped a friend do his and got asked the same so measured... the
> > damn plate was 10.75". Go figure. We went with the 10.5" to be on the
> > safe side....
> >
> > No clue where the last clutch and pressure plate came from. This was an
> > 'imported' 4 speed tranny put into an 82.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Ok cool...
> >>
> >>I called them, and they have it/them.. but I was asked : "with a
> >>10.5" or 11" disc ?"
> >>
> >>So what is it that originally is in there ?
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Robert Bills wrote:
> >>
> >>>>when I ask the parts store that I want a clutch for that
> >>>>application, 258 - T150 bellhousing - Borg Warner T18 for a '79 CJ5 then
> >>>>I should get a clutch that works ... or get the "we don't carry that"
> >>>>answer, right ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ask for a clutch for a '79 CJ-7 with T-150 transmission. Since there were both
> >>>V-8 and inline 6 engines in '79, you might want to confirm that the clutch part
> >>>numbers are the same for both engines. My recollection is that they are the
> >>>same. If you ask for what you actually have (258/T-150 Bellhousing and T-18
> >>>tranny), the parts guy won't have a clue what you are talking about because
> >>>there are no such animals in his parts book.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>do you mean the overall height ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>yes.
> >>>
> >>>Robert Bills
> >>>KG6LMV
> >>>Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>>http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>>http://www.RobertBills.com
