Re: stripped lugnuts
On Feb 28, 7:24 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Curious, where did you find the 'wet' torque values for your lug nuts? > > If you are promoting a fluid on the threads, you should post the torque > settings too or it is bad information. > > There is a 'radical' difference in the torque values on a dry nut and > stud vs a wet one and the books give dry.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > merrill wrote: > > I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you > > want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). > > > Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with > > regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will > > need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). > > Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some > > pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the > > exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that > > doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. > > > When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the > > threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque > > wrench. Retorque after 1 week. > > > Merrill > > > On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > >> I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > >> here goes. > >> The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > >> of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > >> really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > >> I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > >> a half. > >> I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > >> basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping You are right Mike, I don't have wet torque specs. I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of driving and haven't had a problem yet. Merrill > >> the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > >> more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > >> some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > >> I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > >> nuts on top is my best option. > >> I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > >> How should I do this without damaging the studs?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Feb 28, 7:24 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Curious, where did you find the 'wet' torque values for your lug nuts? > > If you are promoting a fluid on the threads, you should post the torque > settings too or it is bad information. > > There is a 'radical' difference in the torque values on a dry nut and > stud vs a wet one and the books give dry.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > merrill wrote: > > I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you > > want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). > > > Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with > > regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will > > need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). > > Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some > > pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the > > exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that > > doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. > > > When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the > > threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque > > wrench. Retorque after 1 week. > > > Merrill > > > On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > >> I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > >> here goes. > >> The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > >> of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > >> really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > >> I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > >> a half. > >> I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > >> basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping You are right Mike, I don't have wet torque specs. I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of driving and haven't had a problem yet. Merrill > >> the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > >> more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > >> some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > >> I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > >> nuts on top is my best option. > >> I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > >> How should I do this without damaging the studs?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
Re: stripped lugnuts
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > Merrill -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
90 to 110: http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > Merrill -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
90 to 110: http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "merrill" <merrill@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > Merrill -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Mar 1, 6:30 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > 90 to 110:http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:LW------...@aol.com > > "merrill" <merr...@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > > Merrill > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Mar 1, 6:30 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > 90 to 110:http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:LW------...@aol.com > > "merrill" <merr...@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > > Merrill > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Mar 1, 6:30 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > 90 to 110:http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:LW------...@aol.com > > "merrill" <merr...@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > > Merrill > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Mar 1, 6:30 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > 90 to 110:http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 Thank you Bill This is not the first time the Haynes manual has given me bad information. I have 3 XJs with alloy wheels so I don't like to take a chance on wheels coming loose. I don't like to pass on bad information. Mike is right, I only use a drop of fluid film on the threads so the lugnuts spin on easily and come off easily. But it works for me and I would not want anyone to think this means that if a little is good then soaking the threads is better. This could be really dangerous. I do it but I shouldn't recommend it for others Merrill > mailto:LW------...@aol.com > > "merrill" <merr...@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > > Merrill > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
On Mar 1, 6:30 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > 90 to 110:http://www.----------.com/lugnutor.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 Thank you Bill This is not the first time the Haynes manual has given me bad information. I have 3 XJs with alloy wheels so I don't like to take a chance on wheels coming loose. I don't like to pass on bad information. Mike is right, I only use a drop of fluid film on the threads so the lugnuts spin on easily and come off easily. But it works for me and I would not want anyone to think this means that if a little is good then soaking the threads is better. This could be really dangerous. I do it but I shouldn't recommend it for others Merrill > mailto:LW------...@aol.com > > "merrill" <merr...@can.rogers.com> wrote in message > > > I have always put a drop on the threads and tightened to 75 ft/lb as > > per the Haynes manual. I didn't specify this number because it could > > be wrong. But wet or dry I have always retourqued after a few days of > > driving and haven't had a problem yet. > > > Merrill > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
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