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Re: stripped lugnuts
Acht! Good work beating me to the punch.
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Re: stripped lugnuts
I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you
want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque wrench. Retorque after 1 week. Merrill On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? |
Re: stripped lugnuts
I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you
want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque wrench. Retorque after 1 week. Merrill On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? |
Re: stripped lugnuts
I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you
want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque wrench. Retorque after 1 week. Merrill On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Curious, where did you find the 'wet' torque values for your lug nuts?
If you are promoting a fluid on the threads, you should post the torque settings too or it is bad information. There is a 'radical' difference in the torque values on a dry nut and stud vs a wet one and the books give dry.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) merrill wrote: > I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you > want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). > > Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with > regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will > need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). > Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some > pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the > exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that > doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. > > When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the > threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque > wrench. Retorque after 1 week. > > Merrill > > > On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: >> I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but >> here goes. >> The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 >> of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like >> really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. >> I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and >> a half. >> I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and >> basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping >> the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's >> more like they deform, like they're made of lead. >> >> some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ >> >> I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding >> nuts on top is my best option. >> I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. >> How should I do this without damaging the studs? > |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Curious, where did you find the 'wet' torque values for your lug nuts?
If you are promoting a fluid on the threads, you should post the torque settings too or it is bad information. There is a 'radical' difference in the torque values on a dry nut and stud vs a wet one and the books give dry.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) merrill wrote: > I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you > want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). > > Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with > regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will > need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). > Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some > pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the > exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that > doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. > > When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the > threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque > wrench. Retorque after 1 week. > > Merrill > > > On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: >> I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but >> here goes. >> The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 >> of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like >> really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. >> I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and >> a half. >> I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and >> basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping >> the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's >> more like they deform, like they're made of lead. >> >> some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ >> >> I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding >> nuts on top is my best option. >> I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. >> How should I do this without damaging the studs? > |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Curious, where did you find the 'wet' torque values for your lug nuts?
If you are promoting a fluid on the threads, you should post the torque settings too or it is bad information. There is a 'radical' difference in the torque values on a dry nut and stud vs a wet one and the books give dry.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) merrill wrote: > I replaced mine with the 1 piece solid long chrome lugnuts. If you > want my old 2 piece lugnuts you can have them (2 sets). > > Now that you have the cheap caps ripped off and you are left with > regular lugnuts, use the proper size wrench to remove them. you will > need to soak them for a day or 2 with good petetrating oil (not WD40). > Use a good cross or breaker bar with a long pipe on it. Put some > pressure on it and have a buddy hold a flat piece of metal over the > exposed end of the cross and whack it with a 3 pound mallet. If that > doesen't work, repeat with a little more pressure and a heaver mallet. > > When I put the lugnuts on, I put a little "fluid film"TM on the > threads and torque them properly. Don't use a gun, always use a torque > wrench. Retorque after 1 week. > > Merrill > > > On Feb 28, 1:34 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: >> I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but >> here goes. >> The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 >> of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like >> really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. >> I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and >> a half. >> I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and >> basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping >> the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's >> more like they deform, like they're made of lead. >> >> some crappy pictures here:http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ >> >> I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding >> nuts on top is my best option. >> I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. >> How should I do this without damaging the studs? > |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Those are the long lug and too small for a four wheeler nuts at 3/4"
socket with that stupid beauty cap, that are illegal to run on a drag strip. Real Jeeps come stock with at least 13/16". Which as you found out are not very strong out at their ends. Especially when the ones you're working on were left too lose and pended the treads against the stud. This time use a deep socket to get down to the lever where the nut is brace against the stud and tighten a quarter turn to remove the galled treads, then remove. Next time use a torque wrench to double check, they are tight enough. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message news:es4hvm$1u7$1@aioe.org... > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Those are the long lug and too small for a four wheeler nuts at 3/4"
socket with that stupid beauty cap, that are illegal to run on a drag strip. Real Jeeps come stock with at least 13/16". Which as you found out are not very strong out at their ends. Especially when the ones you're working on were left too lose and pended the treads against the stud. This time use a deep socket to get down to the lever where the nut is brace against the stud and tighten a quarter turn to remove the galled treads, then remove. Next time use a torque wrench to double check, they are tight enough. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message news:es4hvm$1u7$1@aioe.org... > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: stripped lugnuts
Those are the long lug and too small for a four wheeler nuts at 3/4"
socket with that stupid beauty cap, that are illegal to run on a drag strip. Real Jeeps come stock with at least 13/16". Which as you found out are not very strong out at their ends. Especially when the ones you're working on were left too lose and pended the treads against the stud. This time use a deep socket to get down to the lever where the nut is brace against the stud and tighten a quarter turn to remove the galled treads, then remove. Next time use a torque wrench to double check, they are tight enough. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message news:es4hvm$1u7$1@aioe.org... > I know there have been plenty of bolt removal questions on here, but > here goes. > The lugnuts on the front of my XJ are @#$#ed. I was able to get 4 or 5 > of 10 off no problem, but the others wouldn't budge. These seem like > really crappy lugs, not one piece but two pieces with the nut and a cap. > I've sprayed PB and tapped on the nuts every night for about a week and > a half. > I've been alternating between a breaker bar and impact wrench, and > basically I've succeeded in breaking off most of the caps and stripping > the nuts. The nuts don't seem to be stripping like I'm used to, it's > more like they deform, like they're made of lead. > > some crappy pictures here: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ripped%20lugs/ > > I don't have a welder, but I could probably take it somewhere if welding > nuts on top is my best option. > I'm afraid to drill because of the studs. > How should I do this without damaging the studs? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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