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Will Honea 03-31-2007 02:34 AM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Earle Horton wrote:

> Will,
>
> Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think you
> actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
>
> Heh.


Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600

Yours omes in as:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700

The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us been
listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on these
late nights!)

--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com

Will Honea 03-31-2007 02:34 AM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Earle Horton wrote:

> Will,
>
> Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think you
> actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
>
> Heh.


Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600

Yours omes in as:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700

The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us been
listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on these
late nights!)

--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-31-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Sounds good to me:
http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/p...ime_zone.shtml
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers

show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post

it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes

while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-31-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Sounds good to me:
http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/p...ime_zone.shtml
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers

show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post

it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes

while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-31-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Sounds good to me:
http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/p...ime_zone.shtml
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers

show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post

it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes

while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.




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Scott in Baltimore 03-31-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Off Topic Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
> across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
> hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
> http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg


Check out a straight line solstice:

http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?UTC/s/-0/java

Scott in Baltimore 03-31-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Off Topic Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
> across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
> hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
> http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg


Check out a straight line solstice:

http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?UTC/s/-0/java

Scott in Baltimore 03-31-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Off Topic Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
> across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
> hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
> http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg


Check out a straight line solstice:

http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?UTC/s/-0/java

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-31-2007 02:52 AM

Off Topic Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Hi Earle,
What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:n8qdneFruuGJ6pDbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
> forgot. What do I do now?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers

> show
> > that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post

> it.
> >
> > There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes

> while
> > the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> > computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied,

the
> > internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> > occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> > date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> > changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> > with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> > updates until after the new switch date.
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when

our
> > > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start

the
> > > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are

in
> > > GMT - 07:00.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> > >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> > >>
> > >> How is your time zone?
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> > >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing

with
> > >> > Daylight
> > > Savings
> > >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > > ahead.
> > >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> > >> >>> charging
> > >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> > >> >>> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> >>> give the exact year.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Earle
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery

in
> > >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >> >

> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> > whonea@yahoo.com

>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-31-2007 02:52 AM

Off Topic Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Hi Earle,
What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:n8qdneFruuGJ6pDbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
> forgot. What do I do now?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers

> show
> > that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post

> it.
> >
> > There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes

> while
> > the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> > computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied,

the
> > internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> > occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> > date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> > changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> > with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> > updates until after the new switch date.
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when

our
> > > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start

the
> > > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are

in
> > > GMT - 07:00.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> > >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> > >>
> > >> How is your time zone?
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> > >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing

with
> > >> > Daylight
> > > Savings
> > >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > > ahead.
> > >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> > >> >>> charging
> > >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> > >> >>> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> >>> give the exact year.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Earle
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery

in
> > >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >> >

> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> > whonea@yahoo.com

>
>




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