Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

On Mar 30, 10:21 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?
>
> Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
>
> Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
> alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
> there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
> a computer to turn on the alternator.
>
> Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
> maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
> some sort in there now.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep this in mind now, not be so
confident about being able to start.

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

On Mar 30, 10:21 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?
>
> Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
>
> Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
> alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
> there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
> a computer to turn on the alternator.
>
> Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
> maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
> some sort in there now.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep this in mind now, not be so
confident about being able to start.

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

On Mar 30, 10:21 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?
>
> Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
>
> Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
> alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
> there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
> a computer to turn on the alternator.
>
> Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
> maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
> some sort in there now.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep this in mind now, not be so
confident about being able to start.

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
give the exact year.

Earle

"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
give the exact year.

Earle

"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
give the exact year.

Earle

"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.

How is your time zone?

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>
>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
>>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough
> to
>>> give the exact year.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>>>> Is this true?
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.

How is your time zone?

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>
>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
>>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough
> to
>>> give the exact year.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>>>> Is this true?
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.

How is your time zone?

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>
>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
>>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough
> to
>>> give the exact year.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>>>> Is this true?
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>
> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> > system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough
to
> > give the exact year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >> Is this true?
> >>
> >
> >