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Earle Horton 03-30-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>
> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> > system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough

to
> > give the exact year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >> Is this true?
> >>

> >
> >




Earle Horton 03-30-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight Savings
Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>
> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> > system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough

to
> > give the exact year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >> Is this true?
> >>

> >
> >




Will Honea 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers show
that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post it.

There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes while
the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
updates until after the new switch date.

Earle Horton wrote:

> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
>> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
>> > Daylight

> Savings
>> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>> >>
>> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
>> >>> charging
>> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
>> >>> enough
>> > to
>> >>> give the exact year.
>> >>>
>> >>> Earle
>> >>>
>> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
>> >>>> it. Is this true?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >


--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com

Will Honea 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers show
that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post it.

There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes while
the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
updates until after the new switch date.

Earle Horton wrote:

> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
>> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
>> > Daylight

> Savings
>> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>> >>
>> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
>> >>> charging
>> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
>> >>> enough
>> > to
>> >>> give the exact year.
>> >>>
>> >>> Earle
>> >>>
>> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
>> >>>> it. Is this true?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >


--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com

Will Honea 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers show
that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post it.

There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes while
the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
updates until after the new switch date.

Earle Horton wrote:

> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
>> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
>> > Daylight

> Savings
>> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>> >>
>> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
>> >>> charging
>> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
>> >>> enough
>> > to
>> >>> give the exact year.
>> >>>
>> >>> Earle
>> >>>
>> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
>> >>>> it. Is this true?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >


--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com

Mike Romain 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
half hour earlier than yours....

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight

> Savings
>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>
>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>


Mike Romain 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
half hour earlier than yours....

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight

> Savings
>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>
>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>


Mike Romain 03-30-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
half hour earlier than yours....

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> GMT - 07:00.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>
>> How is your time zone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight

> Savings
>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

> ahead.
>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>
>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>


Earle Horton 03-30-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
GMT - 07:00.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>
> How is your time zone?
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> > distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight

Savings
> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

ahead.
> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>
> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough

> > to
> >>> give the exact year.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >>>> Is this true?
> >>>>
> >>>

> >
> >




Earle Horton 03-30-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 
Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
GMT - 07:00.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>
> How is your time zone?
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> > distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight

Savings
> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour

ahead.
> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>
> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough

> > to
> >>> give the exact year.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >>>> Is this true?
> >>>>
> >>>

> >
> >





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