Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
GMT - 07:00.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>
> How is your time zone?
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that Microsoft
> > distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
Savings
> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
ahead.
> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>
> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough
> > to
> >>> give the exact year.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> >>>> Is this true?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
microcrap was just no good at all...

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
> sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
> fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
> Will says is right, that computer is OK.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
>> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
>> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
>> half hour earlier than yours....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
>>> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
>>> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
>>> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
>>> GMT - 07:00.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>>>
>>>> How is your time zone?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> Microsoft
>>>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
>>> Savings
>>>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
>>> ahead.
>>>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
microcrap was just no good at all...

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
> sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
> fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
> Will says is right, that computer is OK.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
>> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
>> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
>> half hour earlier than yours....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
>>> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
>>> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
>>> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
>>> GMT - 07:00.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>>>
>>>> How is your time zone?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> Microsoft
>>>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
>>> Savings
>>>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
>>> ahead.
>>>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
microcrap was just no good at all...

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
> sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
> fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
> Will says is right, that computer is OK.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
>> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
>> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
>> half hour earlier than yours....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
>>> characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
>>> government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
>>> second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
>>> GMT - 07:00.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
>>>>
>>>> How is your time zone?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> Microsoft
>>>>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
>>> Savings
>>>>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
>>> ahead.
>>>>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>
>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
forgot. What do I do now?

Thanks.

Earle

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers
show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post
it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes
while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
> >> > Daylight
> > Savings
> >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >> >>
> >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> >> >>> charging
> >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> >> >>> enough
> >> > to
> >> >>> give the exact year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Earle
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
> >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
>
> --
> Will Honea
> whonea@yahoo.com

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
forgot. What do I do now?

Thanks.

Earle

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers
show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post
it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes
while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
> >> > Daylight
> > Savings
> >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >> >>
> >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> >> >>> charging
> >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> >> >>> enough
> >> > to
> >> >>> give the exact year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Earle
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
> >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
>
> --
> Will Honea
> whonea@yahoo.com

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
forgot. What do I do now?

Thanks.

Earle

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers
show
> that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post
it.
>
> There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes
while
> the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied, the
> internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> updates until after the new switch date.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with
> >> > Daylight
> > Savings
> >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >> >>
> >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> >> >>> charging
> >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> >> >>> enough
> >> > to
> >> >>> give the exact year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Earle
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in
> >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
>
> --
> Will Honea
> whonea@yahoo.com

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
Will says is right, that computer is OK.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
> half hour earlier than yours....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
Microsoft
> >>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
> > Savings
> >>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
Will says is right, that computer is OK.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
> half hour earlier than yours....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
Microsoft
> >>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
> > Savings
> >>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>

Re: Starting modern jeep question
 

As you know, Microsoft went all to hell after I quit working for them. They
sucked while I was there, but now they have gone all to hell. A temporary
fix is that I am going to spend two days at my other house now, and if what
Will says is right, that computer is OK.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:460d4de4$0$5350$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Well, you are an hour ahead of yourself, just look at the newsgroup time
> tag on this post. It says 2:20 here and it is only 1:50 still. Your
> local one should show the time off too with this post of mine showing a
> half hour earlier than yours....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when our
> > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start the
> > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are in
> > GMT - 07:00.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> >>
> >> How is your time zone?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
Microsoft
> >>> distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing with Daylight
> > Savings
> >>> Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> >>>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> >>>> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > ahead.
> >>>> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>