Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
#51
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
You are schizophrenic.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
> read it to you more carefully.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
> read it to you more carefully.
#52
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
You are schizophrenic.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
> read it to you more carefully.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
> read it to you more carefully.
#53
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In message <1127626263.896586.311980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "Bret
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
#54
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In message <1127626263.896586.311980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "Bret
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
#55
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In message <1127626263.896586.311980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "Bret
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
Ludwig" wrote:
>
>bllsht wrote:
>> In message <1127530210.290461.45000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>, "Bret Ludwig"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > War is a terrible thing. We dropped the bomb on them, which was the
>> >right thing to do in context, but the bottom line is Pearl Harbor was
>> >completely unnecessary. Dropping Fat Man and Little Boy didn't bring
>> >the men of USS Arizona back, did it?
>>
>> No, but it saved the lives of thousands more who would have died because a
>> defeated Japan wouldn't surrender.
>>
>> Take your -------- somewhere else.
>
> You must be illiterate. I never opposed the bombing. Have your mommy
>read it to you more carefully.
Speaking of illiterate, did I ever say you opposed the bombing? YOU said that
dropping the bombs didn't bring the men of the USS Arizona back as if somebody
here thought it would. NOBODY in this thread said that but YOU.
You're just another two-bit troll.
#56
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
#57
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
#58
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Posts: n/a
Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>servicemen.
>
>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>underwater at the time.
>
>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>most hallowed war memorials.<<
This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>don't.
>
>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
http://data2.itc.nps.gov/submerged/d...alphacode=USAR
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"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>>
>>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>>servicemen.
>>
>>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>>underwater at the time.
>>
>>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>>most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
> Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
> To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
> and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
> grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
>
>> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>>----in' boondoggle.
>>
>> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>>don't.
>>
>>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>>on USS Arizona.
>>
>> I say we change our way of thinking.
>
> The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
> So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
>
>
>
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"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>>
>>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>>servicemen.
>>
>>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>>underwater at the time.
>>
>>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>>most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
> Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
> To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
> and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
> grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
>
>> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>>----in' boondoggle.
>>
>> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>>don't.
>>
>>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>>on USS Arizona.
>>
>> I say we change our way of thinking.
>
> The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
> So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
>
>
>
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Re: Sidebar-USS Arizona Preservation Project
http://data2.itc.nps.gov/submerged/d...alphacode=USAR
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"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>>
>>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>>servicemen.
>>
>>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>>underwater at the time.
>>
>>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>>most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
> Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
> To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
> and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
> grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
>
>> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>>----in' boondoggle.
>>
>> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>>don't.
>>
>>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>>on USS Arizona.
>>
>> I say we change our way of thinking.
>
> The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
> So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
>
>
>
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"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> Bret Ludwig <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
>>involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
>>bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
>>Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
>>unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
>>on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
>>associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
>>twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>>
>>In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
>>was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
>>Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
>>Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
>>largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
>>During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
>>ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
>>sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
>>servicemen.
>>
>>To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
>>answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
>>beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
>>seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
>>drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
>>underwater at the time.
>>
>>After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
>>of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
>>what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
>>imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
>>conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
>>questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
>>For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
>>spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
>>most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> This part here obivously looks like a cut and paste from another source.
> Besides, he used >> and << to mark a quote IMO.
> To prove this I checked the readability test on the above paragraphs
> and they passed the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level readability test with a
> grade level of 7.2. Most news articles are around a grade level of 8.
>
>> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
>>survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
>>to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
>>supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
>>contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
>>nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
>>little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
>>----in' boondoggle.
>>
>> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
>>we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
>>debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
>>'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
>>in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
>>choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
>>us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
>>don't.
>>
>>So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
>>be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
>>on USS Arizona.
>>
>> I say we change our way of thinking.
>
> The rest of this post passed with a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level of 2.5.
> So this must be original writing as an 2nd grade level poster. :)
>
>
>
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> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...