Billy Ray

Come on now Bill,

They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
Documentaries.

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> YOu write: "So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing
> again. It would be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless
> loss, like the men on USS Arizona." YOU THINK THE ATTACK WAS OUR FAULT!
> YOU F**KIN' A**HOLE!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>><snip>

Billy Ray

Come on now Bill,

They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
Documentaries.

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> YOu write: "So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing
> again. It would be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless
> loss, like the men on USS Arizona." YOU THINK THE ATTACK WAS OUR FAULT!
> YOU F**KIN' A**HOLE!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>><snip>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
even know how to salute our flag:
http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Come on now Bill,
>
> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
> Documentaries.
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
even know how to salute our flag:
http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Come on now Bill,
>
> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
> Documentaries.
>
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> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
even know how to salute our flag:
http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Come on now Bill,
>
> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
> Documentaries.
>
> --
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Billy Ray

Bill, I am going to send you a pix from NKU's 2005 Graduation. Can you see
what is wrong?

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
> even know how to salute our flag:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Come on now Bill,
>>
>> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
>> Documentaries.
>>
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>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

Billy Ray

Bill, I am going to send you a pix from NKU's 2005 Graduation. Can you see
what is wrong?

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
> even know how to salute our flag:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Come on now Bill,
>>
>> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
>> Documentaries.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

Billy Ray

Bill, I am going to send you a pix from NKU's 2005 Graduation. Can you see
what is wrong?

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> They for sure know nothing about The Greatest Generation, and don't
> even know how to salute our flag:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/wheelchairFlag.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Come on now Bill,
>>
>> They probably learned history from Ted Turner's American History
>> Documentaries.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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Earle Horton

I vote for taking this sort of discussion somewhere else. My news server
has a pile of politics, philosophy, and rant news groups, for example.

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
> involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
> bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
> Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
> unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
> on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
> associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
> twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
> In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
> was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
> Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
> Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
> largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
> During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
> ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
> sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
> servicemen.
>
> To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
> answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
> beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
> seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
> drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
> underwater at the time.
>
> After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
> of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
> what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
> imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
> conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
> questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
> For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
> spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
> most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
> survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
> to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
> supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
> contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
> nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
> little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
> ----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
> we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
> debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
> 'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
> in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
> choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
> us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
> don't.
>
> So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
> be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
> on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
>

Earle Horton

I vote for taking this sort of discussion somewhere else. My news server
has a pile of politics, philosophy, and rant news groups, for example.

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127526335.430105.159950@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>On December 7, 1941 the United States of America became directly
> involved in the greatest of human conflicts, World War II. Even before
> bombs fell on Pearl Harbor that Sunday morning, it was clear to many
> Americans that they would soon be at war with Japan. What was
> unexpected was the seemingly apocalyptic nature of the raid. Emblazoned
> on the minds of millions of Americans, the single most powerful image
> associated with the Pearl Harbor attack, was the smoking metal and
> twisted mast of USS Arizona.
>
> In 1983, the Submerged Resources Center of the National Park Service
> was tasked with mapping and photo-documenting the remains of USS
> Arizona in its final resting place in Pearl Harbor. The National Park
> Service was responsible for managing a major national shrine that was
> largely hidden from view and for which no management precedent existed.
> During and after the war, Navy salvage teams had cut away most of the
> ship's superstructure. Eventually a memorial was built over the
> sunken ship's hull, which is a grave for nearly 1,000 U.S.
> servicemen.
>
> To effectively manage the memorial, the National Park Service needed to
> answer a variety of questions, beginning with "what's there,
> beneath the waters of Pearl Harbor?" To answer that, several field
> seasons in the 1980s were devoted to producing a comprehensive line
> drawing of the 608-foot battleship - the largest object ever mapped
> underwater at the time.
>
> After developing a basic understanding of what was there, the next set
> of questions focused on answering the question, what's happening to
> what's there? What sort of hull integrity remains? Is the ship in
> imminent danger of collapse? Where is the oil coming from that leaks so
> conspicuously from the ship? Research designed to answer those
> questions began in the late 1980s, and have continued in recent years.
> For the past two decades the Submerged Resources Center has been
> spearheading the National Park Service's research on one of Americas
> most hallowed war memorials.<<
>
> I have news for the Park Service, it's salt water and steel does not
> survive salt water. It's a grave. Nature attacks bodies, returns them
> to the biosphere by deacay and eating by worms. (That's how it's
> supposed to work. People buy steel coffins and concrete vaults and it's
> contrary to nature.) Either refloat the hull and BURY the bodies or let
> nature do its job and attack the hull, what biomass is left (very
> little) and all and reduce it to the seafloor. In other words, it's a
> ----in' boondoggle.
>
> The attack at Pearl Harbor was a tragedy, but it's history. Number one
> we immolated the Japanese tenfold, a hundredfold, and more, and the
> debt is paid. Number two, FDR the son of a low -----,(but not as bad as
> 'Bar',La Cuntessa Suprema) who some patriotic American should have <>
> in his wheelchair, put Japan in the position where it had little other
> choice. Imperial Japan was a brutal society but they were no threat to
> us. Number three, we don't learn from history very well, do we? No, we
> don't.
>
> So I guess we are going to have to learn the same thing again. It would
> be better if we did not have to repeat the senseless loss, like the men
> on USS Arizona.
>
> I say we change our way of thinking.
>