Shackles
05-04-2004, 09:48 PM
#21
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Re: Shackles
I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
05-04-2004, 09:58 PM
#22
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Re: Shackles
Measure the distance between the axle and bump stop then kiss it
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
05-04-2004, 09:58 PM
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Measure the distance between the axle and bump stop then kiss it
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
05-04-2004, 09:58 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Measure the distance between the axle and bump stop then kiss it
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
05-04-2004, 09:58 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Measure the distance between the axle and bump stop then kiss it
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
good-bye, in a couple of months to a straight de arced spring with about
two inches clearance.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
> I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
> seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
> any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
> don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
> won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
05-04-2004, 10:12 PM
#26
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Re: Shackles
Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
05-04-2004, 10:12 PM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
05-04-2004, 10:12 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
05-04-2004, 10:12 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
have the center brace.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
>
>>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>>has. I have a question ........
>>
>>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>>problems?
>>
>>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>>in them.
05-04-2004, 10:17 PM
#30
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Re: Shackles
Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:14 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
>possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
>
>The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
>shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
>more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
>inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
>said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
>accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
>that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
>with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
>
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com.. .
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
>
http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:14 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
>possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
>
>The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
>shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
>more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
>inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
>said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
>accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
>that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
>with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
>
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com.. .
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
>