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SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is still a LOT of
them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
-jenn

Jerry McG

JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.

We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
it before I left town.

I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.

Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com...
> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>
> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
later.
> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
have to pay
> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
once, etc,
> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
be patient
> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
slow to load
> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
check out the
> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
VERY VERY
> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
still a LOT of
> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> -jenn
>

Jerry McG

JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.

We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
it before I left town.

I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.

Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com...
> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>
> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
later.
> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
have to pay
> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
once, etc,
> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
be patient
> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
slow to load
> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
check out the
> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
VERY VERY
> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
still a LOT of
> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> -jenn
>

Jerry McG

JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.

We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
it before I left town.

I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.

Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com...
> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>
> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
later.
> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
have to pay
> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
once, etc,
> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
be patient
> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
slow to load
> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
check out the
> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
VERY VERY
> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
still a LOT of
> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> -jenn
>

jbjeep

Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.

Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes were scary but
easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing like rolling
your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with the busted
axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not like Moab
where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more hard stuff.
Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in the hard
stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss cadilac hill,
but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the day trip
there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way up. LOL.
Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just plain fun
(well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip report or
not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They kept
forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I cant wait to
go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is having a heyday,
all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it and started
working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS trail
corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of maintenance
work.

Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon" (I forgot
and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the axle
housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string on it, so
what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15 minutes with
that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card that went bad
on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on the middle to
hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it to pull it
out when he got the rig home.

Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing those pic's!




On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
wrote:

>>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
>>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
>>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
>>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
>>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
>>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
>>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
>>
>>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
>>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
>>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
>>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
>>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
>>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
>>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
>>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
>>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
>>it before I left town.
>>
>>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
>>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
>>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
>>
>>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
>>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
>>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>>>
>>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
>>later.
>>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
>>have to pay
>>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
>>once, etc,
>>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
>>be patient
>>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
>>slow to load
>>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
>>check out the
>>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
>>VERY VERY
>>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
>>still a LOT of
>>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
>>> -jenn
>>>
>>
>>
>>

jbjeep

Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.

Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes were scary but
easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing like rolling
your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with the busted
axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not like Moab
where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more hard stuff.
Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in the hard
stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss cadilac hill,
but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the day trip
there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way up. LOL.
Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just plain fun
(well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip report or
not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They kept
forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I cant wait to
go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is having a heyday,
all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it and started
working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS trail
corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of maintenance
work.

Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon" (I forgot
and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the axle
housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string on it, so
what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15 minutes with
that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card that went bad
on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on the middle to
hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it to pull it
out when he got the rig home.

Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing those pic's!




On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
wrote:

>>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
>>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
>>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
>>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
>>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
>>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
>>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
>>
>>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
>>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
>>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
>>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
>>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
>>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
>>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
>>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
>>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
>>it before I left town.
>>
>>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
>>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
>>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
>>
>>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
>>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
>>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>>>
>>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
>>later.
>>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
>>have to pay
>>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
>>once, etc,
>>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
>>be patient
>>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
>>slow to load
>>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
>>check out the
>>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
>>VERY VERY
>>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
>>still a LOT of
>>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
>>> -jenn
>>>
>>
>>
>>

jbjeep

Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.

Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes were scary but
easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing like rolling
your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with the busted
axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not like Moab
where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more hard stuff.
Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in the hard
stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss cadilac hill,
but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the day trip
there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way up. LOL.
Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just plain fun
(well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip report or
not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They kept
forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I cant wait to
go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is having a heyday,
all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it and started
working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS trail
corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of maintenance
work.

Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon" (I forgot
and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the axle
housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string on it, so
what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15 minutes with
that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card that went bad
on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on the middle to
hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it to pull it
out when he got the rig home.

Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing those pic's!




On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
wrote:

>>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our group
>>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
>>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the Little
>>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island the
>>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon and
>>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe in
>>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
>>
>>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an XJ.
>>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
>>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
>>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much gear
>>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
>>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I wrapped it
>>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live down
>>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would have
>>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to install
>>it before I left town.
>>
>>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we were on
>>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have everyone's
>>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
>>
>>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
>>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
>>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
>>>
>>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try again
>>later.
>>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the price I
>>have to pay
>>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists at
>>once, etc,
>>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site. Please
>>be patient
>>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
>>slow to load
>>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
>>check out the
>>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will load
>>VERY VERY
>>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
>>still a LOT of
>>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
>>> -jenn
>>>
>>
>>
>>

Jerry McG

JB,

I wasn't aware there was another way out other than Cadillac Hill. Frankly,
if you went out there without a detailed map or a guide you could get
yourself in a great deal of trouble in a hurry. Few trail markers and tire
marks going in every direction. With one exception, our trail leader, this
was the first time on the Rubicon for all of us. We planned the trip out for
several months and our leader had us well educated on what to expect. He and
his wife had videotaped their first visit last summer, so we all got to see
the thing beforehand. It was still a major handful. You are absolutely
correct in your trail description. It is just one continuous obstacle. Since
we're just a couple of hours from Moab and very close to Silverton/Ouray we
don;t generally leave this area very often. Several of us are already
planning "Rubicon II", so who knows!

Best on the upgrades.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ahu7j09nvd00ot0itqcltgneanh8dmf4jb@4ax.com...
> Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.
>
> Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes
were scary but
> easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing
like rolling
> your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with
the busted
> axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not
like Moab
> where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more
hard stuff.
> Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in
the hard
> stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss
cadilac hill,
> but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the
day trip
> there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way
up. LOL.
> Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just
plain fun
> (well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip
report or
> not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They
kept
> forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I
cant wait to
> go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is
having a heyday,
> all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it
and started
> working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS
trail
> corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of
maintenance
> work.
>
> Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon"
(I forgot
> and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the
axle
> housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string
on it, so
> what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15
minutes with
> that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card
that went bad
> on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on
the middle to
> hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it
to pull it
> out when he got the rig home.
>
> Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing
those pic's!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our
group
> >>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
> >>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the
Little
> >>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island
the
> >>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon
and
> >>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe
in
> >>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
> >>
> >>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an
XJ.
> >>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
> >>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
> >>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much
gear
> >>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
> >>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I
wrapped it
> >>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live
down
> >>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would
have
> >>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to
install
> >>it before I left town.
> >>
> >>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we
were on
> >>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have
everyone's
> >>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
> >>
> >>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
> >>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
> >>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
> >>>
> >>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try
again
> >>later.
> >>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the
price I
> >>have to pay
> >>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists
at
> >>once, etc,
> >>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site.
Please
> >>be patient
> >>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
> >>slow to load
> >>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
> >>check out the
> >>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will
load
> >>VERY VERY
> >>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
> >>still a LOT of
> >>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> >>> -jenn
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Jerry McG

JB,

I wasn't aware there was another way out other than Cadillac Hill. Frankly,
if you went out there without a detailed map or a guide you could get
yourself in a great deal of trouble in a hurry. Few trail markers and tire
marks going in every direction. With one exception, our trail leader, this
was the first time on the Rubicon for all of us. We planned the trip out for
several months and our leader had us well educated on what to expect. He and
his wife had videotaped their first visit last summer, so we all got to see
the thing beforehand. It was still a major handful. You are absolutely
correct in your trail description. It is just one continuous obstacle. Since
we're just a couple of hours from Moab and very close to Silverton/Ouray we
don;t generally leave this area very often. Several of us are already
planning "Rubicon II", so who knows!

Best on the upgrades.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ahu7j09nvd00ot0itqcltgneanh8dmf4jb@4ax.com...
> Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.
>
> Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes
were scary but
> easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing
like rolling
> your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with
the busted
> axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not
like Moab
> where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more
hard stuff.
> Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in
the hard
> stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss
cadilac hill,
> but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the
day trip
> there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way
up. LOL.
> Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just
plain fun
> (well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip
report or
> not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They
kept
> forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I
cant wait to
> go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is
having a heyday,
> all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it
and started
> working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS
trail
> corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of
maintenance
> work.
>
> Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon"
(I forgot
> and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the
axle
> housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string
on it, so
> what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15
minutes with
> that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card
that went bad
> on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on
the middle to
> hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it
to pull it
> out when he got the rig home.
>
> Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing
those pic's!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our
group
> >>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
> >>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the
Little
> >>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island
the
> >>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon
and
> >>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe
in
> >>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
> >>
> >>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an
XJ.
> >>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
> >>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
> >>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much
gear
> >>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
> >>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I
wrapped it
> >>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live
down
> >>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would
have
> >>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to
install
> >>it before I left town.
> >>
> >>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we
were on
> >>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have
everyone's
> >>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
> >>
> >>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
> >>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
> >>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
> >>>
> >>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try
again
> >>later.
> >>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the
price I
> >>have to pay
> >>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists
at
> >>once, etc,
> >>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site.
Please
> >>be patient
> >>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
> >>slow to load
> >>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
> >>check out the
> >>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will
load
> >>VERY VERY
> >>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
> >>still a LOT of
> >>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> >>> -jenn
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Jerry McG

JB,

I wasn't aware there was another way out other than Cadillac Hill. Frankly,
if you went out there without a detailed map or a guide you could get
yourself in a great deal of trouble in a hurry. Few trail markers and tire
marks going in every direction. With one exception, our trail leader, this
was the first time on the Rubicon for all of us. We planned the trip out for
several months and our leader had us well educated on what to expect. He and
his wife had videotaped their first visit last summer, so we all got to see
the thing beforehand. It was still a major handful. You are absolutely
correct in your trail description. It is just one continuous obstacle. Since
we're just a couple of hours from Moab and very close to Silverton/Ouray we
don;t generally leave this area very often. Several of us are already
planning "Rubicon II", so who knows!

Best on the upgrades.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ahu7j09nvd00ot0itqcltgneanh8dmf4jb@4ax.com...
> Thanks. I really appreciate the comments.
>
> Actually, we had less big carnage that I thought we would. the brakes
were scary but
> easily fixed. Its funny how the body damage didnt bother me. Nothing
like rolling
> your rig to put it all in perspective! I figured I would be the one with
the busted
> axles, but I guess I got lucky!! I really liked the trail a lot. Its not
like Moab
> where you have hard obsticales and then a nice drive, and then some more
hard stuff.
> Its rock, all the time rock, and then the rock gets bigger and badder in
the hard
> stuff. You have to be on top of it all the time. I was bummed to miss
cadilac hill,
> but the guys didnt want to go out that way. Rubicon springs was nice, the
day trip
> there and back was fun. Little sluice looked like fun for about 1/2 way
up. LOL.
> Then the rock is too big for my 33's. Old sluice and Big Sluice were just
plain fun
> (well, other than the brakes). I dont know if I mentioned it in the trip
report or
> not, but I was the only driver that had never done the trail before. They
kept
> forgetting that, and it was so very different from what I am used to. I
cant wait to
> go back again!! (once I get my rig out of the shop - my mechanic is
having a heyday,
> all the parts showed up this afternoon and he got really excited about it
and started
> working on it already.) We are doing the tera rear brake conversion, PS
trail
> corners, and flush mounted tail lights, in addition to a sh**load of
maintenance
> work.
>
> Yep, the diaper will be hard to live down. As will Todd's "axle tampon"
(I forgot
> and left it out of the trip report) ... the plug he made to go inside the
axle
> housing for the trip home - its absorbent on the inside, its got a string
on it, so
> what else could you call it? Maria kept us in stiches for about 15
minutes with
> that. <G> Unfortunitly, that was some of the pics on the camera card
that went bad
> on me. =( It was a rubber glove stuffed with rags, with a zip tie on
the middle to
> hold it together and a string from that so that he could get a hold of it
to pull it
> out when he got the rig home.
>
> Glad to hear you guys had a good time too. I'll look fowards to seeing
those pic's!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:27 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>JB, really enjoyed seeing your pictures and reading your reports. Our
group
> >>(Creeper Jeepers, Durango CO) was on the Rubicon the 16th - 18th and
> >>probably just missed you. Since we only had 2 1/2 days we skipped the
Little
> >>Sluice and did the bypass, which was tough enough. Stayed at Buck Island
the
> >>first night, then stopped at Rubicon Springs early the second afternoon
and
> >>camped the night. Did Cadillac Hill on day 3 and we were back in Tahoe
in
> >>time to catch a dinner cruise on the MS Dixie.
> >>
> >>We all survived with just a few dings and a broken hard brake line on an
XJ.
> >>I "doinked" both of the front fenders on my YJ with the tires from
> >>underneath (wanted tube fenders, anyway) and peeled the cover back on my
> >>rear D60 just enough to watch it drip for 3 days, wondering how much
gear
> >>oil was left every morning. (I put a drip pan under it and measured the
> >>loss!) Still had plenty when I got back to Tahoe, at which time I
wrapped it
> >>in a towel, which the group dubbed "the diaper", which I will not live
down
> >>soon. The best part is that a nice Poison Spider "Rock Ring" that would
have
> >>prevented all this was sitting on my workbench, too busy / lazy to
install
> >>it before I left town.
> >>
> >>I was busy driving so I only got about 50 shots in the whole time we
were on
> >>the trail. However the others got quite a few, so as soon I have
everyone's
> >>photos sorted I'll put a link up on Webshots.
> >>
> >>Glad you all made it back safe & sound. Sounds like you had more of a
> >>"carnage adventure" than we did, but the trail is not to be missed.
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:v805j0t3jmpccag3krbj7idv9v63620ib2@4ax.com. ..
> >>> http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Rubicon04/Rubicon04.html
> >>>
> >>> If you get a "page not found" error or something similar, please try
again
> >>later.
> >>> The server owner has limited the bandwidth to my site (that's the
price I
> >>have to pay
> >>> for free server space. LOL.) Since this will be hitting all my lists
at
> >>once, etc,
> >>> there will probably be a lot of folks trying to hit on the site.
Please
> >>be patient
> >>> and check back if you don't get in on the first try. The page will be
> >>slow to load
> >>> due to the pictures embedded in the trip report, and, if you decide to
> >>check out the
> >>> picture link at the bottom of the page, please remember that it will
load
> >>VERY VERY
> >>> SLOW. I cut out more than 1/2 the pictures that we took, but there is
> >>still a LOT of
> >>> them there (400-ish). Click on an image for the larger pic.
> >>> -jenn
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>