Tracie wrote:
..
>
> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>

They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.

In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
wider flairs.

Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Tracie wrote:
..
>
> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>

They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.

In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
wider flairs.

Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Tracie wrote:
..
>
> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>

They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.

In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
wider flairs.

Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
>> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>>
>
> They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

Technically, you are correct according to manufacturer's specs, however
I don't completely agree. Currently, I'm running 32x11.50x15s on 15x7"
mags on my Early Bronco right now and they look great. Just a touch less
air to flatten out the contact patch. It puts a slight bulge in the tire
to give it a plumpish look, which I like. Also, I run 35x12.50x15s on
15x8 wheels on my TJ. Same look, same principal. I think the main issue
is the backspacing on some of the factory wheels, so I agree about that
part. I don't know which factory wheels you have, but there are varying
backspacing specs on Jeep factory wheels. On a street rig, you should be
able adjust your steering stops with the factory wheels, that have less
backspacing, to avoid rubbing. If you have the Unlimited wheels or the
Rubi wheels, you are better off.


> You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
> part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
> too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.
>
> In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
> they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
> wider flairs.
>
> Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
>> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>>
>
> They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

Technically, you are correct according to manufacturer's specs, however
I don't completely agree. Currently, I'm running 32x11.50x15s on 15x7"
mags on my Early Bronco right now and they look great. Just a touch less
air to flatten out the contact patch. It puts a slight bulge in the tire
to give it a plumpish look, which I like. Also, I run 35x12.50x15s on
15x8 wheels on my TJ. Same look, same principal. I think the main issue
is the backspacing on some of the factory wheels, so I agree about that
part. I don't know which factory wheels you have, but there are varying
backspacing specs on Jeep factory wheels. On a street rig, you should be
able adjust your steering stops with the factory wheels, that have less
backspacing, to avoid rubbing. If you have the Unlimited wheels or the
Rubi wheels, you are better off.


> You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
> part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
> too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.
>
> In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
> they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
> wider flairs.
>
> Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
>> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>>
>
> They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

Technically, you are correct according to manufacturer's specs, however
I don't completely agree. Currently, I'm running 32x11.50x15s on 15x7"
mags on my Early Bronco right now and they look great. Just a touch less
air to flatten out the contact patch. It puts a slight bulge in the tire
to give it a plumpish look, which I like. Also, I run 35x12.50x15s on
15x8 wheels on my TJ. Same look, same principal. I think the main issue
is the backspacing on some of the factory wheels, so I agree about that
part. I don't know which factory wheels you have, but there are varying
backspacing specs on Jeep factory wheels. On a street rig, you should be
able adjust your steering stops with the factory wheels, that have less
backspacing, to avoid rubbing. If you have the Unlimited wheels or the
Rubi wheels, you are better off.


> You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
> part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
> too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.
>
> In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
> they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
> wider flairs.
>
> Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>> There is just one thing that I don't understand though. How come you
>> can't put a 31 X 11.5 X 15 tire on the stock rims?
>>
>
> They are too wide for the 7" rim and the rim 'back space' isn't right.

Technically, you are correct according to manufacturer's specs, however
I don't completely agree. Currently, I'm running 32x11.50x15s on 15x7"
mags on my Early Bronco right now and they look great. Just a touch less
air to flatten out the contact patch. It puts a slight bulge in the tire
to give it a plumpish look, which I like. Also, I run 35x12.50x15s on
15x8 wheels on my TJ. Same look, same principal. I think the main issue
is the backspacing on some of the factory wheels, so I agree about that
part. I don't know which factory wheels you have, but there are varying
backspacing specs on Jeep factory wheels. On a street rig, you should be
able adjust your steering stops with the factory wheels, that have less
backspacing, to avoid rubbing. If you have the Unlimited wheels or the
Rubi wheels, you are better off.


> You have to have a rim that has the center dish 'offset' so the 'tire'
> part sticks out of the fender more. The stock one will have the tire
> too close to the shock absorber or control arm and it will rub.
>
> In some places, when you go 12.5" you must change your fender flairs so
> they cover the tire or you will get a ticket. That is why they sell
> wider flairs.
>
> Here in Canada if you shoot water off the tires you can get a ticket.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Tracie wrote:

> On Aug 16, 9:07 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 16, 2:58 am, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Twaldron --
>>>I appreciate your advice, and it is mostly true (I do agree with much
>>>of what you're saying). However, I would like to avoid the expense of
>>>a new CV driveshaft/SYE kit if I can get the same amount of lift using
>>>other combinations of suspension or body lifts and still be able to
>>>avoid the vibes. As for the gearing, I do agree. Down the road, I am
>>>going to change the gearing to at least 4.11 as you mentioned. As far
>>>as 33s being miserable with the gearing that I currently have, would
>>>32s make any significant difference as far as the higher gears being
>>>tall?
>>
>>I do understand what you are trying to accomplish...not the way I'd do
>>it, but I do understand. Yes, 32s would help. Too, be afraid of a shop
>>that would install a 3" body lift. OMG! Don't do that!
>>
>>As far as your 2" spacer vs 2" spring lift question...if you can afford
>>the spring lift, go with that. If not, spacers will be fine for your use.
>>
>>Good luck and let us know how it goes.
>>
>>tw
>
>
> Forgot to mention....the 3 inch spacer lift is a combo of 4 - 2"
> spacers and 4 - 1" spacers. Is it safe to stack the spacers like
> this? As previously mentioned, I do not do any extreme off roading at
> all. 90-95% of my driving is highway. Both the 2 inch and the 3 inch
> coil spacer kits come with extended bump stops and new shocks.
>

DO NOT STACK THE SPACERS!!

tw

 

Tracie wrote:

> On Aug 16, 9:07 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 16, 2:58 am, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Twaldron --
>>>I appreciate your advice, and it is mostly true (I do agree with much
>>>of what you're saying). However, I would like to avoid the expense of
>>>a new CV driveshaft/SYE kit if I can get the same amount of lift using
>>>other combinations of suspension or body lifts and still be able to
>>>avoid the vibes. As for the gearing, I do agree. Down the road, I am
>>>going to change the gearing to at least 4.11 as you mentioned. As far
>>>as 33s being miserable with the gearing that I currently have, would
>>>32s make any significant difference as far as the higher gears being
>>>tall?
>>
>>I do understand what you are trying to accomplish...not the way I'd do
>>it, but I do understand. Yes, 32s would help. Too, be afraid of a shop
>>that would install a 3" body lift. OMG! Don't do that!
>>
>>As far as your 2" spacer vs 2" spring lift question...if you can afford
>>the spring lift, go with that. If not, spacers will be fine for your use.
>>
>>Good luck and let us know how it goes.
>>
>>tw
>
>
> Forgot to mention....the 3 inch spacer lift is a combo of 4 - 2"
> spacers and 4 - 1" spacers. Is it safe to stack the spacers like
> this? As previously mentioned, I do not do any extreme off roading at
> all. 90-95% of my driving is highway. Both the 2 inch and the 3 inch
> coil spacer kits come with extended bump stops and new shocks.
>

DO NOT STACK THE SPACERS!!

tw

 

Tracie wrote:

> On Aug 16, 9:07 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 16, 2:58 am, Garth Almgren <nos...@mukyj.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Twaldron --
>>>I appreciate your advice, and it is mostly true (I do agree with much
>>>of what you're saying). However, I would like to avoid the expense of
>>>a new CV driveshaft/SYE kit if I can get the same amount of lift using
>>>other combinations of suspension or body lifts and still be able to
>>>avoid the vibes. As for the gearing, I do agree. Down the road, I am
>>>going to change the gearing to at least 4.11 as you mentioned. As far
>>>as 33s being miserable with the gearing that I currently have, would
>>>32s make any significant difference as far as the higher gears being
>>>tall?
>>
>>I do understand what you are trying to accomplish...not the way I'd do
>>it, but I do understand. Yes, 32s would help. Too, be afraid of a shop
>>that would install a 3" body lift. OMG! Don't do that!
>>
>>As far as your 2" spacer vs 2" spring lift question...if you can afford
>>the spring lift, go with that. If not, spacers will be fine for your use.
>>
>>Good luck and let us know how it goes.
>>
>>tw
>
>
> Forgot to mention....the 3 inch spacer lift is a combo of 4 - 2"
> spacers and 4 - 1" spacers. Is it safe to stack the spacers like
> this? As previously mentioned, I do not do any extreme off roading at
> all. 90-95% of my driving is highway. Both the 2 inch and the 3 inch
> coil spacer kits come with extended bump stops and new shocks.
>

DO NOT STACK THE SPACERS!!

tw