Re: 04 Rubicon
03-11-2005, 02:59 PM
#21
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Re: 04 Rubicon
You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 02:59 PM
#22
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Re: 04 Rubicon
You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:14 PM
#23
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Re: 04 Rubicon
it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:14 PM
#24
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Re: 04 Rubicon
it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:14 PM
#25
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Re: 04 Rubicon
it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
:-)
martin caskey
millers island, maryland
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> You are right: http://www.trailer-hitches.com/ I guess I was
> thinking half the Gross Vehicle Weight, capacity of a two inch ball
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
> >
> > are you sure that's not three "hundred" pounds of tongue weight???
> >
> > martin caskey
> > millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:28 PM
#26
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Put the Wrangler tub on a dually:
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:28 PM
#27
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Put the Wrangler tub on a dually:
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 03:28 PM
#28
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Put the Wrangler tub on a dually:
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>
> it is fun to think about, though. what would you need to do to a
> wrangler to allow it to handle a #3000 hitch weight???
>
> :-)
>
> martin caskey
> millers island, maryland
03-11-2005, 05:35 PM
#29
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Re: 04 Rubicon
I agree with the flimsy material they used across the frame rails in the back.
I had 1/4" steel cut the same size and shape as what is already back there
welded to the existing one and then have heavy angle bracing on both sides
where the frame rails meet the plate in the back. They use the two holes in
the frame near the back and two holes that go through the "cross member" and
bumper.
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
Yamaha WR250ZF
Dave Milne <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: True - the factory tow bar has substantial 1/4" angle bracing and bolts onto
: the frame in 6 places (two each side of the frame rails, and a bolt
: underneath each side). I wouldn't even give that pathetic piece of sheet
: metal the dignity of the name "cross member".
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
: "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:42308FC8.4EA06B5F@sympatico.ca...
:> Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
:> bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
:> really isn't very structural for a pull.
:>
:> For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
:> bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
:> want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
:>
:> They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
:> bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
:> works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
:> trailer on the highway going it's own way.
:>
:> My $0.02,
:>
:> Mike
:> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
:> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I had 1/4" steel cut the same size and shape as what is already back there
welded to the existing one and then have heavy angle bracing on both sides
where the frame rails meet the plate in the back. They use the two holes in
the frame near the back and two holes that go through the "cross member" and
bumper.
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
Yamaha WR250ZF
Dave Milne <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: True - the factory tow bar has substantial 1/4" angle bracing and bolts onto
: the frame in 6 places (two each side of the frame rails, and a bolt
: underneath each side). I wouldn't even give that pathetic piece of sheet
: metal the dignity of the name "cross member".
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
: "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:42308FC8.4EA06B5F@sympatico.ca...
:> Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
:> bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
:> really isn't very structural for a pull.
:>
:> For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
:> bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
:> want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
:>
:> They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
:> bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
:> works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
:> trailer on the highway going it's own way.
:>
:> My $0.02,
:>
:> Mike
:> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
:> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
03-11-2005, 05:35 PM
#30
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Re: 04 Rubicon
I agree with the flimsy material they used across the frame rails in the back.
I had 1/4" steel cut the same size and shape as what is already back there
welded to the existing one and then have heavy angle bracing on both sides
where the frame rails meet the plate in the back. They use the two holes in
the frame near the back and two holes that go through the "cross member" and
bumper.
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
Yamaha WR250ZF
Dave Milne <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: True - the factory tow bar has substantial 1/4" angle bracing and bolts onto
: the frame in 6 places (two each side of the frame rails, and a bolt
: underneath each side). I wouldn't even give that pathetic piece of sheet
: metal the dignity of the name "cross member".
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
: "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:42308FC8.4EA06B5F@sympatico.ca...
:> Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
:> bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
:> really isn't very structural for a pull.
:>
:> For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
:> bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
:> want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
:>
:> They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
:> bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
:> works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
:> trailer on the highway going it's own way.
:>
:> My $0.02,
:>
:> Mike
:> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
:> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I had 1/4" steel cut the same size and shape as what is already back there
welded to the existing one and then have heavy angle bracing on both sides
where the frame rails meet the plate in the back. They use the two holes in
the frame near the back and two holes that go through the "cross member" and
bumper.
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
Yamaha WR250ZF
Dave Milne <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: True - the factory tow bar has substantial 1/4" angle bracing and bolts onto
: the frame in 6 places (two each side of the frame rails, and a bolt
: underneath each side). I wouldn't even give that pathetic piece of sheet
: metal the dignity of the name "cross member".
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
: "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:42308FC8.4EA06B5F@sympatico.ca...
:> Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
:> bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
:> really isn't very structural for a pull.
:>
:> For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
:> bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
:> want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
:>
:> They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
:> bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
:> works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
:> trailer on the highway going it's own way.
:>
:> My $0.02,
:>
:> Mike
:> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
:> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
