Re: 04 Rubicon
03-10-2005, 01:22 AM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
"Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> know
> what's up with that?
Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
> What's the best product to cover fender flare scratches?
Mud!
Ray
03-10-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
03-10-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
03-10-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
: "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
: news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
:> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
:> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
:> know
:> what's up with that?
I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
: Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
(719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
03-10-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Jeff Hendron wrote:
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
03-10-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Jeff Hendron wrote:
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
03-10-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Jeff Hendron wrote:
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
That is for sure since trailer towing of the type a Jeep Wrangler is
suited for doesn't really put much strain on a bumper.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
03-10-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
03-10-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
03-10-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: 04 Rubicon
Have you ever looked at how solid the bumper is bolted on or at what the
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch
bumper is bolted on to??? Only a few bolts into a cross member that
really isn't very structural for a pull.
For towing, you need the hitch bolted onto the frame or major angle
bracing to hold the cross member and bumper to the frame tails if you
want to have the bumper structurally sound for pulling.
They correctly figure you are going to tear it off (stock bumpers with
bumper hitches get ripped off all the time in an extraction, it seldom
works out of mud) so figure it is safer to have a mud pit missile than a
trailer on the highway going it's own way.
My $0.02,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Hendron wrote:
>
> o|||||||o Ray <ray.webb@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> : "Chuck" <chucky@grm.net> wrote in message
> : news:d0mqsi$e26$2@news.netins.net...
> :> Anyone have a link to the 04 Jeep Brochure?
>
> :> My warn bumper in the rear say's for "pulling not towing" - does anyone
> :> know
> :> what's up with that?
>
> I have a DayStar Rock Krusher rear bumper on my 03 Rubicon, and it also has a
> sticker on it that says the built in 2" receiver is for vehicle recovery use
> only and not for pulling trailers. I would also assume it is to cover their
> butts since vehicle recovery would potentially put a lot more pull on it than
> any trailer a Wrangler is rated to pull.
>
> : Sounds like they're trying to cover their butts...
>
> Jeff Hendron 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
> MatrixOne Support Skyjacker 4" lift, JKS Disconnects
> Agilent Technologies Fabtech Front Bumper, Rock Krusher Rear Bumper
> Co Springs, Colorado Rock Krusher Rock Rails, Custom Swingout Tire Carrier
> (719) 531-4319 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheels
> jeff_hendron@agilent.com Bush Whacker Fender Flares, Warn XD9000i Winch