question on jeep dealer refusing service.
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Roughly 4/19/04 16:02, DougW's monkeys randomly typed:
> Matt Osborn did pass the time by typing:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:07:16 -0400, "cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My negotiation skills suck. I don't think I _have_ to be skilled in
>>> negotiating to spend thousands of my dollars at a dealership. I'm one of
>>> those people that just can't seem to say what they need to say, or have the
>>> directness needed to be a 'negotiator'. I HATE trying to buy a new car, and
>>> it's why I passed on an 02 and bought my 94 YJ from a private sale.
>>
>> The biggest problem with negotiating is not knowing what to negotiate.
>> How in the hell do we know what the dealer makes, what the
>> manufacturer makes and what to negotiate.
>>
>> Negotiating for a car is having an emotional argument with yourself.
>> How bad do you want the car? That's no basis for negotiation.
>
> Negotiation is like a paint job. 90% of a proper job is prep work.
>
And learning to spot the Earl Schieb class salestypes...altho it is
fun screwing with them every now and then if you're bored.
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> Matt Osborn did pass the time by typing:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:07:16 -0400, "cooper" <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My negotiation skills suck. I don't think I _have_ to be skilled in
>>> negotiating to spend thousands of my dollars at a dealership. I'm one of
>>> those people that just can't seem to say what they need to say, or have the
>>> directness needed to be a 'negotiator'. I HATE trying to buy a new car, and
>>> it's why I passed on an 02 and bought my 94 YJ from a private sale.
>>
>> The biggest problem with negotiating is not knowing what to negotiate.
>> How in the hell do we know what the dealer makes, what the
>> manufacturer makes and what to negotiate.
>>
>> Negotiating for a car is having an emotional argument with yourself.
>> How bad do you want the car? That's no basis for negotiation.
>
> Negotiation is like a paint job. 90% of a proper job is prep work.
>
And learning to spot the Earl Schieb class salestypes...altho it is
fun screwing with them every now and then if you're bored.
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Evolution is merely survival of the minimally adequate
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Peter Parker wrote:
> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
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> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
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Peter Parker wrote:
> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
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> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
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Peter Parker wrote:
> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
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> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
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Peter Parker wrote:
> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
> In article <1088hj4amcul6da@corp.supernews.com>,
> Sleestak <here@there.com> wrote:
>>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I hear ya man. Most people top post so I really don't make a big
>>> deal
>>> outta it. Bottom posting really can be better if done right, though.
>>> If you are board, check out the following websites:
>>
>>Of course I meant "bored."
>>
>
> Of course it also the Windoze crapola software used which retards the user
> to just a 5 year old with editing control. The good ol days of rn and trn
> are gone where you had more control over editing.
>
>
I still mostly use slrn; I've been playing with knode lately and kind of
like it.
--
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But top posting is SO MUCH easier to read. You don't have to scroll down
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
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But top posting is SO MUCH easier to read. You don't have to scroll down
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
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But top posting is SO MUCH easier to read. You don't have to scroll down
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
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But top posting is SO MUCH easier to read. You don't have to scroll down
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
(sometimes a LONG way down) to the bottom of the post just to see a
sometimes one or two line reply.
Snipping out the part of the original post that is unrelated to your reply
also helps make for an easier, quicker read.
I much prefer top posted replies.
Tom
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g45880la5mp78jnahd154d30ha9gkpnad7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:10:03 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
snip
>
> By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the conversation.
>
snip
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I was too broke for the Timex and never got around to Commies or CoCos.
My first home box was 286, but I cobbled up a 10MHz 8088 (with the V20
refit), a 20MB ST-225 and a Prometheus 1200bps (soon replaced by a USR
Sportster) to serve as a platform for my barefoot OPUS BBS in the
late-80s.
I'm using Procomm 2.4.2 right now. It does just what I want it to, every
time.
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Yes, I had the English Timex Simclair in '82, then our Commodore
> 64, but they couldn't network. That came in '85 for me with this IBM PC
> clone, Kay Pro 4 MHz and 300 baud modem:
> http://www.----------.com/KayPro.jpg and a program like ProComm:
> http://www.----------.com/procomm.htm to call our friends down the
> block.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Sleestak wrote:
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by "newbie." My first computer was a Timex Simclair
> > 1000, and I fist had access to BBSs with a Vic 20 -- I had to load the
> > modem software with a tape drive. I have been building computers and
> > setting up networks since the 80s. Top posting is confuing as hell. The
> > proper was to post is to cut the extranious stuff out of the message and
> > respond under what's left. http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html
> > http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
>


